ZEV Motorcycles & Scooters
Looks like interest is fading
No fading of interest here. I enjoy reading ownership experiences of all makes and models. It's very helpful.
So, thanks for taking the time to post.
Looks like interest is fading now that the bike is fixed,
No, indeed no fading here, just nothing to contribute at this time :-)
I'm also getting rather disturbing, solid, 'clunks' when going over certain kinds of bumps. I don't know it it's the suspension itself, or something else. Any of you other ZEV riders encountering that?
You don't have to be a ZEV rider to be experiencing similar 'clunks'. There are numerous possibilities on these Chinese-bred scooters for loose things such as fairings or fenders not bolted on correctly, and the big 'clunks' tend be the batteries hopping in their tray on very hard bumps. But those would tend to mildly hurt the rider also. A side or particularly main stand that is not held in retracted position sufficiently could also participate in clunking over bumps. And then of course such things as a toolset, charger or some other loose luggage under the seat could also make some noises, though that is very easy to find out compared to the other possible sources.
Really bad clunking would be from the suspension itself, play in the steering head, swing arm bearing or in wheel bearings.
Make it easy on yourself. Straighten a wire clothes hanger, at one end make a small loop or hook, feed it down into the battery area, then attach some cord/twine to it and pull it into the instrument area. Then attach the twine to your speedo cable and pull that back into the battery area. I just connected the speedo line to the hall sensor without using the ground (cathode) in the hall sensor cable and all worked great (CA already grounded through it's shunt- line and ground lines). Remember to remove C6 cap if you want the speedo to work properly.
I've come to this thread late, but here's some good advice for anyone about how to use carriers
If there is damage on a package, either refuse delivery of the package OR note the condition of the package in writing on the carrier's paperwork. Insist that the damaged package be opened while the driver is still present. Make a joint inspection with the delivery person, and note any discovered damage on the delivery receipt and on your copy.
Personally, I would have refused delivery the first time it came damaged, and for *sure* if it came damaged the second time!
Also, it may be different in the USA but I would never accept delivery of an unregistered bike. The dealer should register it in your name for you. (here at least...) That's what a dealer gets paid for, otherwise the maker could just ship it to you and cut the dealer costs out.
There shouldn't ever be any issues that you need deal with regarding damage or registration.
My conclusion, drawn from this little adventure, is that for me, the ZEV 5000LA has a range of 30-50km, depending on how briskly I ride. I'd love to know if these odometers are optimistic like the speedos, of if they are fairly accurate. Anybody here know?
Unfortunately they are usually optimistic (but by a different amount than the speedo). A good way of finding out the length of your journey is to use Google Earth - You can use the satellite view and trace the route you took and then get a read out of the distance (along with a nifty elevation view as well). You may also be able to do it with Google Maps (but I haven't tried that).
If you're interested I can post some brief instructions.
My conclusion, drawn from this little adventure, is that for me, the ZEV 5000LA has a range of 30-50km, depending on how briskly I ride. I'd love to know if these odometers are optimistic like the speedos, of if they are fairly accurate. Anybody here know? I'm also going to carry a 9' large appliance extension cord at all times.
On my bike with the original Cheng Shin tires the odometer was fairly accurate and speed about 11% optimistic, but now with my IRC winter tires it appears the speed is nearing the truth from above, but the odometer is now reading shy of the travelled distance, because those tires have a slightly larger diameter. I second the proposal to trace a route you ride on GoogleEarth and compare the result with your odometer. GoogleMaps as far as I can see will only measure the flat distance, but I may be wrong.
Good thing you made it home! Though I would not propose to deplete your battery as low as that too often, lest some cells die on you...
Sorry to hear about the hostile reaction to your requests for an opportunity charge. Unfortunately, it is all too common. I can't figure what the hostility is about.
My lithium-converted 40AH e-max goes at least 55 km, and my Current C124 goes 80km, which in compact greater Pittsburgh gets me everywhere I need to go. But previous to this, opportunity charging figured more prominently. My best luck with opportunity charging has been public parking garages (run by the city) or the outlets often found in planter boxes and garden walls of public parks, plazas or sidewalks for decorative lights. The alley-sides or back sides of businesses often have outlets amongst the trash cans or dumpsters. I would basically develop a mental map of electric outlet locations.
The simple addition or public coin-operated charging points would make range issues go away for all EV's, lead to an explosion in the market for EV's - and a source of income for the persons, businesses or local governments that operate the charging points. Win-win-win.
I should have read you posts more carefully. I didn't know you scooter was SLA powered - I didn't know that ZEV offered that option. That charger problem you mentioned will be fatal to SLA's. They NEED to be topped-off at every opportunity. Is this a problem with the charger rather than design? When I used SLA's I never got more than a season of use before a cell in at least one battery would go bad - and this reduced range the same as the whole pack going bad.
Sorry I missed that, but was is the model you have ?
A ZEV 6000 with SLA's ?
Anyway, it is interesting to read about people's travels with EV's.
Here in Sweden I usually have attracted interest with my electric scooter moped, and now motorcycle.
I did have to stop once for a recharge, just pulled into a gas station and they let me use an outlet for a 30min top-up at no charge, although I did take a quick refill myself as well with a sandwich so I guess they got some money from me anyway :)
I suspect that the front end of the ZEV frame *may* be Mountain Chen, with the rest of it being custom built, but I don't know that for a fact...
No no, Mountain Chen is only a customer of probably the same shocks upfront as Mr. Zehrbach's Scooters also use. A lot of these Chinese scooters use the same base components, despite of various assertions to the contrary :-)
And thanks for your video contributions too, they are greatly appreciated, at least by me!