Electrinium
Electrinium is to electricity like magnets are to magnetism,
im talking about the ultimate energy source known to man and possibly to extra extraterrestrials it is unlike any other free energy device in that it is as simple as a magnet and when built properly is almost undistructible. This tech is made out of the sludge inside any kind of battery that builds up as a by product of the discharging process in a traditional electro chemical reaction. With a chemical battery there are 2 types of metals the plates and the electrolyte, because of the difference of the metals one has a higher potential making the positive and negative terminals, the electrolyte simply acts as the medium for the metal molecules to pass. When you connect the terminals
tiny metal molecules pass from one plate to the other, when they meet they produce a compound molecule of both types of metal fusing together basically a battery cell on the molecule scale, as this happens it sends a charge around the ciruit and back to the same molecule and now that it has taken up that space on the plate and this keeps happening until the entire surface of the plate is covered wich means the battery is flat. When you recharge your battery your basically cleaning that plate and the compound molecules that were made fall to the bottom of the battery this process takes parts of one plate and after so many charge and discharge cycles the plate runs out of molecules it can give up and this basically means time to buy a new battery.
But wait a second didnt we just fuse two metals with a potential difference together, forming a battery that doesnt need an electrolyte and doesnt need to be recharged and just needs to be arranged in series? You beeter beleive it. You need to take that sludge out and line up the molecules in series built into a hard material such as silicon, metal or glass and the end product is called electrinium, it trully is to electricity what magnet are for magnetism.
This is the most advanced free energy device one could hope for litarally and is what all electric vehicle users wish for.
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First, check out wikipedia for a clear description of how batteries really work. There is too much misinformation here to clear up point by point.
Second, the explanation makes no sense on its face. Chemical batteries free up electrons as a result of a chemical reaction. Anything that has "fused" has done its bit. As a source of energy this substance is about as useful as a brick.
Third, this idea has been kicking around for 28 years. Either the device is impossible to build or it is at least as difficult to make as a fusion reactor. It won't be worth talking about until someone actually makes one.
Here's what Google throws up on Electrinium: http://www.google.com/search?q=Electrinium
Interestingly I couldn't easily (i.e. in 30 seconds) find a good debunking article. Normally when I've searched on various other "too good to be true" techs there's been a debunking link on the first page.
Still, I really do doubt that the tech works as stated and is really being suppressed by evildoers...
I got as far as "the electrolyte simply acts as the medium for the metal molecules to pass". I figured the rest wasn't worth reading.
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I will pay $1000.oo for a 36-volt battery that never needs to be charged and can put out 50-amps continuous. Any other takers?
Chas S.
Dude. Seriously.
By this logic, I could go out right now, buy $100 worth of alkaline batteries (that's about 100A @ 150V), stab a nail through them (or squash them in a vice), and run everything in my house off of it.
Did you even read what was in that link Chas put up?
"I will pay $1000.oo for a 36-volt battery that never needs to be charged and can put out 50-amps continuous. Any other takers?"
I would pay that for a 12V pack without a second thought.
Dear brother electron, I don't mind discussing "outside the box" ideas, and sometimes, working on a better vaso-dilator to reduce blood pressure can accidentally create a VERY profitable blood flow in other areas (Viagra).
However, any discussion about "electrinium" may not have a practical application soon enough to interest the type of people that frequent this particular forum.
Some types of research may require an unobtainable piece of equipment like a particle accelerator. However, based on your post, it seems as though, IF there is any potential to this line of research, it could be verified or debunked at a modest cost using common tools and materials in your garage.
If you wish to continue researching electrinium you may find a very active dialogue at:
They had all the information I needed to build a hydrogen generator, and there are also many other "unconventional" discussions. Best of luck, and have fun.
davew wrote:
Either the device is impossible to build or it is at least as difficult to make as a fusion reactor.
I wouldn't denigrate Fusion so!
The only thing that is limiting fusion development is funding for the full-scale test reactors. The US, shortsighted and aversive of any public expenditure outside of making war, may be refusing to seriously pursue fusion, but in Europe, research and development is underway.
ITER will be first net-producer of fusion energy, using the TOKOMAK design. It is starting construction in France this year.
Some preliminary plans are also underway for for DEMO, which will use the lessons learned from ITER to build the first demonstration fusion electric generating plant by mid century.
Electrinium is to electricity like magnets are to magnetism
This statement was, in itself, enough for me avoid wasting my time reading any further. The person wrote this statement knew nothing about electricity and magnetism.
This is one of the more wacky "perpetual motion" schemes I've read.
The misconception behind this statement is that a magnet is producing some sort of energy, via it's magnetic field. It is not, any more than a book resting a table (in a gravitational field) is producing energy. It only produces energy if it is dropped off the table, and even then, no net energy, since it took as much plus at least a little more energy to lift it onto the table at some point in the past.
In the same way, a permanent magnet only produces energy if it is put in motion in the vicinity of a conductor (a coil) as in an electric generator, but the magnetism isn't the source of the energy, the mechanical energy moving the magnet is.
Actually there IS something that "is to electricity as a magnet is to magnetism" it is called a capacitor, or in it's simplest form, a cat or piece or wool on a low-humidity day. But something had to expend energy to charge the capacitor or pet the cat.
I can't believe I'm responding again. Someone steal my keyboard. Please.
in a magnet the magnetic field is permanent it doesn't require a power source
Permanent magnets aren't permanent. Some fade faster than others, but all magnets wear out; especially if you get work out of them. There are even motors designed around this principal. These motors aren't useful because they only can do a tiny amount of work, but they can do it for a very long time. When measured, however, the work done is proportional to the loss of field strength in the magnets.
If you don't believe me try this experiment. Take two magnets of whatever type you like. Figure out how much weight each one can lift. Now tape them together with like poles touching (they'll want to repel each other.) Leave them in a drawer for a few months. Take them out and repeat the lifting experiment.
This, my very young friend, is science. This is how people learn things. If you don't like the science books, fine. Figure it out for yourself. Maybe you'll learn something that will be useful to the world.
First a few defiitions:
Energy = Work = integral of F (dot) ds = the product of a force vector in the direction a path of movement. A stationary force, no matter how strong, does no work.
Power = (integral of F(dot)dS)/dt The time rate that work is done.
The magnetic field of a magnet is not energy or power it does no work. When you push the opposite poles of a magnet together work is being done, but it is your arms that are doing the work, not the magnets. When the opposing poles of the magnet are allowed to fly apart it is just using up the potential energy stored in it from your arms. This is no different than compressing a spring then releasing it. No net energy is produced.
Now, some work was done to align the little molecular dipoles in the making of a magnet, and the magnet produced power at an absolutely tiny rate as it dissipates, but this is absolutely tiny.
What I am trying to do is explain that "electruum is to electricity as magnetism is to magnets" is meaningless mumbo jumbo, without getting into electro magnetic theory, Maxwell's Equations, etc...
And, your Tesla quote, if it is accurate is pretty preposterous too. It is a fine statement with regard to Engineering and technology.
But the purpose of science is not to have a "goal", it is simply a universally accepted method to analyze and develop predictive explanations for a phenomena.
Now, someone please take my keyboard away too...
Now, some work was done to align the little molecular dipoles in the making of a magnet, and the magnet produced power at an absolutely tiny rate as it dissipates, but this is absolutely tiny.
Just a note:
Interestingly, there are motors that are able to use the field of a magnet to do work. Naturally, the magnet loses its properties when used like this. Neat as that is, it takes roughly 25 times as much energy to "charge" the magnet as the magnet can produce.
And science, by definition, is a method of acquiring knowledge. I guess you could call that a goal, albeit a rather vague one.
EDIT: Also, I was bored (waiting to leave for work) and clicked on that YouTube search link. I was LMAOing at the guy talking about "not interpreting things to fit his view" and then finding signs of Satanism on a Starbucks coffee.
[...] then finding signs of Satanism on a Starbucks coffee.
Doesn't satan own Starbucks? I mean, just look at the prices! :)
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Wow, that earth-based fusion stuff sounds like the ticket!
I bet it'll be too cheap to meter! free for everyone :), and no messy waste either!
Oh, then there's the cost of getting the helium to drive it....from the moon.
OMG. Let's stop creating new problems and use the remote fusion available to us now.
unobtaniman
Hello Everyone!
Here's what Google throws up on Electrinium: http://www.google.com/search?q=Electrinium
Interestingly I couldn't easily (i.e. in 30 seconds) find a good debunking article. Normally when I've searched on various other "too good to be true" techs there's been a debunking link on the first page.
Still, I really do doubt that the tech works as stated and is really being suppressed by evildoers...
Thanks!...
Good Luck!
Still, I really do doubt that the tech works as stated and is really being suppressed by evildoers...
Heh, Heh....Thats it, I come round tonight to steal your miracle invention! you won't be able to stop me cos I'm invisible, and I'm powered by perpetual motion! 'They', said I was MAD, MAD, me the inventor of the dial-a-matic, handy-dandy, sponge sharpener! Well I showed 'em.. I became the Grand High Master of the Order of World Conspiracy Theorists, (meetings every third Tuesday in my tree house, NO girls!If mom lets me..)
Anyway, take care I'm ready, ready I tell you, I will take your keyboard!(crazy laughter)
Signed, THE EVILDOER
"First, check out wikipedia for a clear description of how batteries really work. There is too much misinformation here to clear up point by point."
I understand this sounds rediculous to someone with a school or university limited point of view, just because something is written in a book and is taught as fact around the world does not mean its true, scientists 100 years ago used to believe that alot of our modern equipment and technologies were simply impossible and that they had discovered everything that was worth discovering,if it wasnt for rouge scientists and inventors we wouldnt even have our electric vehicles.
"Second, the explanation makes no sense on its face. Chemical batteries free up electrons as a result of a chemical reaction. Anything that has "fused" has done its bit. As a source of energy this substance is about as useful as a brick."
Is that so? where did you get your info from a book? yep thats what i thought, once again science thats taught in schools and universities is not conclusive understand that it can be manipulated and has been for the benefit of the corrupt eletists that hide behind the political arena, these elitists have 99% of the the worlds wealth and the mass population owns 1% percent its true those who have the gold make the rules.
"Third, this idea has been kicking around for 28 years. Either the device is impossible to build or it is at least as difficult to make as a fusion reactor. It won't be worth talking about until someone actually makes one."
The mass population of earth never hear about the death of alot of inventors that are murdered when they produce working free energy devices. Some have been made and people have been silenced. http://pesn.com/2007/12/05/9500463_self-powered_battery_inventor_dead/
at the bottom of your posts it says "we must be the change we wish to see in the world" i suggest you stick to that advice.
Peace.
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