UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V DC-DC converter and 1500Watt Hub Motor

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UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V DC-DC converter and 1500Watt Hub Motor

I tried this upgrade from outolunchcruisin [at] gmail.com on a Baja 500 and man what a differance. Its like going from a under powered scooter to a motorcycle. The additionl power is really appreciated as I live in the hills. Couldnt use it before, but now its like I can go where the car goes, and just as fast. If anyone would like more info on this, email the address above.

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Show us some pictures. Give us more details. Costs?

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I spoke with this guy yesterday. Although we didn't get into price he told me that he did these modifications on his bike and it does 45mph! I didn't have much time to talk to him, but he said to get really specific on what you want and he will give you a quote. Something to look into! I wonder how complicated it is to do this. I have an XB-600. Can you imagine going 45 on this. Scary, but fun!

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Is this an advertisement for business, or an offer to share information?

Cheers, Gary
XM-5000Li, wired for cell voltage measuring and logging.

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If you are referring to my post I was only reporting what the guy told me. I am not in league with him or anything. He is a really nice guy though and he does this as a hobby. Send him an email and you will see.

Thanks,

Clint

Fresno, CA

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Pictures furnished by outolunchcruisin [at] gmail.com
16V 36amp Li-ion batteries in a 6 pac carrier under seat made for easy removal if necessary.
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Pictures furnished by outolunchcruisin [at] gmail.com
Here is a picture of our battery add on in the floor under the feet to save space under the seat. Contains 16V 32Amp Li-ion battery pac. Cover removed for picture.DSCF0002.JPG

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Pictures furnished by outolunchcruisin [at] gmail.com
Here is a picture of the 1500Watt motor that replaced the 500Watt running on 64V and controller/Dc-Dc converter upgrade.DSCF0004.JPGDSCF0005.JPG

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Anybody have any more info on this upgrade? I've tried e mailing outolunchcruisin twice for info but haven't recieved any response.
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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

You can also get a hold of him at allanbull [at] sbcgloal.net. he is real helpful and seems to know his stuff.

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Nice mods I'll admit, but for those of us who have to stay within the legal specs for non licensing, well it wouldn't be advisable. In my opinion it also wouldn't be advisable due to the fact that I don't think that XB series would hold up very long physically at higher rates of speed due to the cheaply made parts. Yes, I am an XB-700Li owner with 1000 miles on it but I still tend to think that they weren't designed to due 35+ mph.

Just my 2 cents, Scott.

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Good point...I think the frame is probably ok. I have seen the XB 508 sold with a faster motor but it also comes with better disk brakes on the front, full metal brake levers, and larger tires.

So if you are thinking abou this type of upgrade its probably a good idea to upgrade the braking system, tires and even shocks.

The good part is that some of these upgrades, like better brake levers, brake shoes and shocks are very cheap. Metal brake levers can be had for $12, better brake shoes can be anywhere from $11 to $21.

I even like the idea of improving the aerodynamics with windshields.

I am really interested in hearing about people's experiences with different aftermarket parts.

Motors, controllers and batteries are only part of the process of making these little machines as good as they can be.

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Having done the Shunt mod and upping my battery pack voltage to 60 Volts, I'm still not satisfied with the performance of my XB500. The Shunt mod was great for increasing my hill-climbing ability. I went from just barely making it up an 8% grade to ascending the same hill without losing but about 15% of my original speed.
Before adding the extra 12 Volts to my battery pack, my top speed on flat ground, no wind, was just under 18 MPH. With the extra voltage, my top speed is now around 23 MPH when the battery is fully charged, and about 21 MPH after a 10 mile drive.

I still need more speed. I cannot drive on city streets without pi****g off the SUV drivers. Michigan allows a maximum speed of 30 MPH for mopeds, which is how my bike is registered. This Summer, i'm going to try switching to a Kelly KBS72051 controller. http://www.kellycontroller.com/mot/KBS.html

Kelly just started offering these, and their price is about $140 with shipping. It's a programmable controller, and I'm hoping that I can get the speed and accelleration that I need to keep up with city traffic, at least to the extent allowed by Michigan law. I just received the controller this week, and am currently setting up to program the unit. I'll keep everyone here posted on my findings. If anyone else has used these Kelly Controllers, I hope you will post your experience here. It would certainly be helpful.
Dick Berger

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To add to my upgrade pictures, here is a picture of a Li-ion battery pac installed under the seat in the rear. This leaves room under the seat for storage.
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Photos provided by cruisin [at] live.com

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Was the controller replaced also, Or just the batteries and the motor?

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

My first worry would be the front brakes.

My second worry would be frame strength.

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Re: UPGRADE A XB-500, XB-600-, XB-700 to 64V Li-Ion, 75V ...

Very cool, but I didn't see how much the batteries cost? The best I found was $950 shipped! :-(

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