How many vectrix reached 30.000km?

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My VECTRIX is only slightly over one year old, and used for trips of 30 miles or less.(If over 15 miles each way, I charge before return) It has never failed to complete the trip, although there have been times that it was running very slowly at the end! Recently, I took it for its first warranty service, and they determined that some battery cells were weak, so they put in a new battery, and updated my software. Since this, I have NOT experienced the "Suddenly Vanishing Battery Range Bars"--A BIG plus for the VECTRIX is that it may be legally/safely driven and stored INDOORS, as it has no "flammable liquids or poisonous gases"--therefore, where parking is otherwise not available, you could possibly park in your home or office! (The VECTRIX is also ideal for security/escort duty in marathon type footraces or bicycling events, as it produces no noxious exhaust fumes, and can operate at walking/bicycling speeds for the duration of the event, without overheating.) I have a HONDA GOLDWING motorcycle (Over 160,000 KM, or 100,000 miles so far!)for longer trips on 2 wheels, but its petrol costs are much higher than the electricity costs of my VECTRIX.--After one year, and about 1,500 miles, my VECTRIX maintenance costs are ZERO $, and electricty costs for this mileage was about $20.00 U.S.--Bob Curry

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Your post suggests the bike is good as a toy and nothing else, it does not come accross as a serious motorcycle or for that matter a serious commuter, perhaps in time it may become worth while but i'm sure that will come with a huge price tag.

You're right. I live in the center of barcelona. I commute 3 km to my work. Longest trip I need to do is 5-10 km away. Longer distances for me are just for pleasure. 27.000 km of unserious commute, full of pleasure on a "good toy", nothing else.

as i have said before, for the same money you can buy some very reliable and comfortable and much faster machines, with running costs which will be much lower than these types of bikes.

Certainly, you can purchase a superb Suzuki Burgman 400CC for the same price. It would be the perfect, logical choice.

To be honest I have not tested one of these bikes yet, i have considered taking a trip up to coventry as one of the posters here is a dealer and suggested i do this.
I guess the bike does have a decent ride but the problem still remains that this ride will last no more than an avarage of 35 to 50 miles if lucky, so you couldn't take it out for a good run, and you will always be sweating over the problem with the batteries if they have actually charged at all.

Let's be honest. Congratulations for your interest in electric commuting, but this technology may not be ready to serve you as good as a fossil burner. From a logical point of view, you should wait for the 3rd generation of electric motorcycles. But don't forget to test it now, and then, after the ride, think about the potential improvements this technology will get within next 10-15 years.

oh and by the way it seems you can't even open the throttle up else you blow a fuse,

The 125A fuse was replaced by a 200A fuse in Oct 2008. I've never heard of a blown 200A fuse. This why the new firmware increases acceleration and top speed. Please ensure that the demo unit you'll test has the latest FW with the 110 km/h limit

ehm I still wonder about the issue of rain, how many still ride well in the rain?

Soft rain has never been a problem. However, old scooters have a pair of holes on the front side and under heavy rain some water can get to a temp board. The bike will say there's a mistake and won't charge until water evaporates (2-5 hours). In new models these holes are sealed to be waterproof. I sealed the holes of my bike and the problem never repeated. But cleaning with pressure water is not recommended.


As for the work shop manual or service manual being on line for the dealers, that is not of any use to someone that has a bike that has broken down and is in need of some repair information, so officially there is no service manual for anyone that owns one of these bikes, and you can't go to your local dealer and purchase spares either, true they are newish to the market but that is all the more reason to have servicing information available to the owners.

And with that Suzuki Burgman 400CC you'll have access to a service manual? In catalunya there are over 10 places where a vectrix can obtain spare parts and get serviced. The V's network is expanding...

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it's not all about money. I don't need a better resale value. I like to taste the future today.

There's something else apart from money? senseless!!!! Illogical!!!!!!

However.. I completely agree! I love to taste the future today. Everyday....

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Hallo from Italy !!
my vectrix has 46000km ...33000km with last pack battery and all ok!!!!

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Thank you everybody for all your answers!

congratulations, grillino75! 46.000 km is starting to be an impressive number... I guess very few people in the entire world has travelled 46k km on a vectrix. By the way, your orange vectrix looks nice!;-)

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I would also add, that its not all about numbers either, but more about new sensations and experiences, and you have to pay a price for it.
For Electric vehicles to reach mass market, it has to start somewhere, and i think this would be the start, if you say you dont want to be in the start line cause its all disadvantages and you want to wait and see what happens to those who do,then its fine. But dont try to be one of the first and convince yourself that its going to be cheaper and more practical, get a Vectrix and find out for yourself, its an adventure, nothing safe.
If you then find anything positive, its all that, that you are going to win.
Someone has to be the first (with the positives and negatives).
You either choose to be one or not.
I think the positives for you will be much less than the negatives.

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Hallo from Italy !!
my vectrix has 46000km ...33000km with last pack battery and all ok!!!!

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8480/dscf1336ed.jpg

Congratulations - and very nice colour!

Is it flat where you drive? Or is it in the mountains?

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Seems that most all of the points have been pretty well covered (on the "why buy a Vectrix" question), but thought I'd chip in my 2-bits as well..
Presently owning a 1,000cc Aprilia Futura in addition to the Vectrix, I've got to admit that it was the Vectrix that saw much more use this past summer. Reasons include lower cost (gas has already been mentioned, but $300 valve adjustments and oil changes do add up), better maneuverability (all that battery weight down low on small tires), better storage (though the Fut does have a Givi trunk), better reliability (the Fut let me down once with a corroded fuel pump wire) and better safety (not sure why, but the Vectrix feels more secure perhaps because one sits lower?). Overall the Vectrix is my urban assault vehicle of choice. Will it get me to my parent's house 100 miles away on a single charge? Nope, but that's what the Futura is for.

In short, the Vectrix does not pretend to be and never will be the end-all-be-all transport option; I'd argue no two-wheeled vehicle could fit this bill even though I have seen some heavily weighed-down motorcycles that would make you think otherwise. Using this same logic, however, is what brought us in the US to dino-consuming SUV heaven, because you just NEVER KNOW when you're going to need to tow that boat down to the lake along with your 4 fishing buddies along with 4 coolers of beer. The truth is, you do usually know in advance and can most times easily work out an alternative..

But I admit I'm not the best to talk as I only have 3,200 miles so far in my first year; I simply don't drive much except to and from work. Still, $320 in fuel savings on my $4K investment at my local gasoline/electricity prices!

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There is one point of importance that has not been mentioned - or two ....

A) The Vectrix does not need petrol! Seems obvious, I know, but think about it. It might often be easier to get electricity than petrol.

B) One can learn sooo much with these finicky babies.....that can be a real advantage!

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i live in Rome ,so it's flat where i drive

http://anvel.weebly.com/raduno-vectrix.html

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There is one point of importance that has not been mentioned - or two ....

A) The Vectrix does not need petrol! Seems obvious, I know, but think about it. It might often be easier to get electricity than petrol.

B) One can learn sooo much with these finicky babies.....that can be a real advantage!

And its much more easy for us - as private persons - to produce electricity, than petrol ;-)

i live in Rome ,so it's flat where i drive

http://anvel.weebly.com/raduno-vectrix.html

Hi, great photos! Are they actual? How many of the V´s are still operational?

This one has a great color sheme do you have more photos of it?

I talk about the white one with the red stripes.

Greetings Mike

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surprise..!!! sky tg 24 (tv news of Rupert Murdoch!!)

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Ah at least you have looked at the bike for what it truly is, but I wonder if such a bike with such limited ability is truly worth the money it costs.

I mean, if I’m only able to use it reliably for around 10 to 20 miles per day then I wonder wouldn’t an electric bike be better rather than all the restraints surrounding an electric motorcycle.

After all if I were to go for an electric bicycle I would not need insurance or all the other things motorcycles are subjected to.

If I were only travelling around 10 miles per day then why would I bother with any type of motorcycle unless of course I intended to use it for weekend riding as well, which is something you just can’t do with a vectrix at the moment?

In the UK the vectrix is considered a 125cc so I compare it to this type of bike, it may look big enough to be a burgman but it is considered to perform no better than a 125cc petrol bike.

And if you compare this bike to a 125cc petrol bike you would have to run the vectrix for probably around 40 years or more just to get your money back on use.

However if we are discounting the money side of things then they probably are a great toy, except for the road use restrictions on it as a motorcycle of course.

Upsides of the bike are.

If we are looking for positive reasons to own one, the only ones I can see are perhaps no vibrations, (though you don’t get much on most 125cc motorcycles anyway) if the fuel companies go on strike you can still get around, but not if the electric companies strike, which is a down side and perhaps shouldn't be here, you would be one of the first a pioneer of this type of tech, except it’s not really that new, only the batteries are.

Down sides are.

It’s very expensive to own, unreliable, poor range, and just about all the other things I mentioned.

If we are being honest the vectrix is a great looking toy and for the price if it remains so high seems to be less likely to become anything else because there are much cheaper and better options.

There appears to have been one person that has been able to reach 30,000 km with one battery but, is now on a second battery with only 46,000 km not even miles, that’s like having to replace the engine on a fossil fuelled 125cc at around 30,000 km which again would be completely unacceptable.

In the uk the restrictions on motorcycles have become rather ridiculous, this bike simply does the authorities job for them by restricting where you can go and how long you can do it.

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Well yes they don’t need petrol but so what, it still needs electric and the cost of the bike means you will have to drive your bike many many miles to compare the price of gasoline.

The bike is three times the price of a 125cc motorcycle nearly so the fact that you save a few pennies on gasoline means you will have to do a lot of mileage on the electric bike in order to even start comparing.

The only trouble is you can’t because the bike won’t manage it, by the time you get to anything near what a petrol bike can do you are looking at maybe 4 or five times replacing the battery pack, and as we know the battery packs cost an arm and a leg just adds to the time you will need to keep the electric bike in order to even start getting close to comparing the two.

If vectrix brings the price down and floods the market with cheap replacement parts, there maybe some worth in the idea of actually owning one as a real commuter but as it stands they are a toy nothing more.

And yes as a serious vehicle it is useless, completely impractical.

So they don’t produce fumes, but the more of them there are the more the power stations will need to produce the electricity so someone will be producing the fumes.

Even though reducing fumes is a good thing, because of its limitations it does not address the issues because you need an extra vehicle in case it breaks down, and unless you are happy to wait a good 2 or more hours for the AA/RAC to come and pick you up just because you ran out of electricity I just can’t see the point to them other than the reasons I have mentioned.

But I do intend to test ride one just to see what the ride is like as I notice many people praise the ride.

The bike I own now is extremely comfortable and extremely good on fuel and ultra reliable the price was similar to the electric bike, which I nearly purchased in place of the bike I now own, but I’m sure the electric bike would have cost me a lot more than my bike I own, may have even cost me my job due to reliability issues.

So if I were to compare it to the bike I now own price wise similar, usefulness, not even close, reliability, again not even close, flexibility, again not even close, fuel, the electric bike is cheaper to run unless you include the replacing of the batteries which makes them more expensive over all.

I can have more fun on the bike I have now because I can take it anywhere I want without worrying about running out of fuel, I could even take it on holiday with me to visit Italy.

Not so the vectrix yet.

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RaDy

Yes I think you are right the vectrix is nothing more than an adventure, not really a practical alternative to a real motorcycle.

If you are only going to ride in the city in the UK the vectrix may be an expensive alternative but if only riding in the city it may be better to just use an electric bicycle.

In fact if not for the restrictions on two wheelers in the UK more people would probably ride electric bicycles, as it stands there is little incentive to go electric in the UK.

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In short, the Vectrix does not pretend to be and never will be the end-all-be-all transport option; I'd argue no two-wheeled vehicle could fit this bill even though I have seen some heavily weighed-down motorcycles that would make you think otherwise.

That is a fair point, but at least you should be able to take it out for a ride once in a while without the fear of having to push it home or getting a ticket for illegaly parking it on the pavement while charging it up.

Perhaps the USA is different to the UK when it comes to the rules I know other european countries are much more sensible than the UK with regards to two wheelers.

I would argue that perhaps one of the big reasons why electric motorcycles will struggle to take hold in the UK is simply due to the draconian laws being inforced not only on them but two wheelers as a whole.

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I can't help wondering if you're playing Devil's advocate here and sitting back to see who bites!

Here are my thoughts on the Vectrix. I did not own a motorbike prior to the Vectrix, having always been a 'car' person - I was just so impressed by the concept when I saw them at the Goodwood Festival of Speed that I looked into it and ended up buying one. Yes it was a gamble but so far one that seems to be working out fine. I travel an average of 15 miles a day to and from work - just me, no-one else and no heavy equipment. I did try cycling but during the winter months in the UK on unlit country roads, I soon stopped - plus it was damn tiring. The Vectrix changed all that - it eats up the trip to and from work, out at lunchtime and also down to visit my dear old mum, after work, if I fancy it. I've had the bike for two years, have ridden it in driving rain, through a 6 inch flood and in temperatures ranging from -5 to 28 degrees - all without any trouble at all. It gets used every day for work, some evenings and also at weekends, when I don't have to take the kids along too. I rarely travelled outside of the Vectrix range before I had it so I'm not compromising at all. It has never let me down once and I've only ran out of charge once 100 yards from home when I first had it. All it takes is a little journey planning in advance. Take today - I'm at work (don't tell the boss I'm on here) and am intending to visit a friend who lives 17 miles away tonight. I charged last night and will top up charge for two hours when I go home tonight so that I have a 'full tank' for the 34 mile round trip (which the V will easily do). So in the course of a day that's just under 50 miles with no inconvenience to me and about 60p in electricity. I paid £5,300 for it two years ago and have covered just under 9,000 miles in that time. I've paid out for tyres and brake pads in that time - oh and about £100 in electricity, at a rough guess. Apart from a weekly discharge to the red to synch everything up I take no special care - just plug in, let the software do it's thing and go. I worked out roughly that over 4.5 - 5 years (when compared to my car) the V will have paid for itself in saved fuel costs. True, if it is compared to a 125 motorbike then the savings would not be so great BUT I wouldn't have bought a 125, I would have bought another car, so if you take into account the depreciation on that then the V will pay for itself even sooner... I'm still getting the same 35-45 miles per charge I had at the start (depending if I've done a discharge to red), am loving my rebirth into a 'biker' (in the loosest sense!) and most of all am loving bombing about on my Vectrix. Long may it continue. Oh, and a PS. - I am fortunate to be within riding distance of Steve Scott, so support has, at least in my case, been absolutely first rate.

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MOney 1:Ah at least you have looked at the bike for what it truly is, but I wonder if such a bike with such limited ability is truly worth the money it costs.

money 2:After all if I were to go for an electric bicycle I would not need insurance or all the other things motorcycles are subjected to.

money 3:And if you compare this bike to a 125cc petrol bike you would have to run the vectrix for probably around 40 years or more just to get your money back on use.

40 years??? Sir, if you please, can you share with us how did you come to this absu... err this incredible conclusion?
I'm curious, what motorbike do you ride in your daily commute?

However if we are discounting the money side of things then they probably are a great toy, except for the road use restrictions on it as a motorcycle of course.

A poor consideration, hopefully outside money parameters... I'm astonished that "enjoying your everyday rides" is not considered as an advantage. I foresee a gray life, trapped in a perpetual cloudy day. You only need a machine on tiny wheels to bring you from A to B. Cool, isn't it?


It’s very expensive to own, unreliable, poor range, and just about all the other things I mentioned.

As WE mentioned before, this is not true. But it seems that you are not interested in understanding the comments posted here.

If we are being honest the vectrix is a great looking toy and for the price if it remains so high seems to be less likely to become anything else because there are much cheaper and better options.

It is increasingly obvious that You should not buy a Vectrix. You don't understand what does it mean owning a brilliant motorbike of this superb class. Taking into account your single parameter, money, all you need is an ultracheap, scrap Chinese 125cc scooter to bring you from A to B.

There appears to have been one person that has been able to reach 30,000 km with one battery but, is now on a second battery with only 46,000 km not even miles, that’s like having to replace the engine on a fossil fuelled 125cc at around 30,000 km which again would be completely unacceptable.

Man! You're not very well informed. Regular 125cc motorbikes under city stress, such as honda 125SH, yamaha Xmax 125cc, etc, need engine replacement (1500 euros) every 35.000-40.000 km. A conventional 125cc under your strict parameters is not purchasable.
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Hi there!
@ just_looking. The Vectrix is not THE final solution it´s the beginning. Reading your posts you might misunderstood some things
mixing other things up...

The V has no daily range around 10 to 20 miles per day, it has in my case/using profile a range of 35 miles PER charge. Of course
I had to modyfy my driving habits a bit, but my daily use is between 80 and 30 miles per day. It is no problem as the V charges
fast enough (mine needs refering to my driving habits 2-3 hours beeing fully charged). I work 8 hours 5 days a week and i sleep
about 6-7 hours a day -> plenty of time for recharge. One of my supermarkets has a charging place I usually spend about one hour
if I buy food or other needed items, so the bike is charged full as I have only 8 Miles to this supermarket.

I would never buy a 125cc scooter (to small and -sorry guys- to weak) in my case I use V instead of my car and my 1100cc Virago which
is a to thirsty beast for the daily trip to work. As I work in a cinema I cant´t take the bus or train to get home, when we close
its too late for train/bus.

The cost factor: I´m using roadbooks for my vehicles so I know the costs (gasoline AND wearoff) of them. So I made an excel sheet
for the cost per Km and started to calculate my V:
Total costs (buying, insurance, disklock, first aid box and other stuff like an energy/cost monitor, electricity): about 10.000 Euros
Saved money by reduced wearoff saved gasoline fundraising in my country(Car Virago) from Okt. 2008 until Sept. 2010 (2 Years): about 2000
euros and a big smile every time gasoline becomes more expensive.

The emission: off course oil and coal are burned for electricity, but more efficient with better aircleaning-mechanism than in vehicles!
But do you know how much energy is needet/wasted between extraction of petroleum and the moment it gets into your tank? I cant hear
people anymore saying "ahem electric vecicles produce exhaust during the produktion of electric energy" Unless it is not produced by
"burning " uran in an nuclear power plant I have absolute no problem with it. And in austria we are giftet as we don´t have nuclear
power plants but using much hydropower.

To bring it to an end: just_looking reading your post you might not be willing/prepared to use electric mobility, so wait some years
do some research and then maybe we can wellcome you back.

Greetings Mike

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I have one word for why I have a Vectrix....

Quirky!

It's also got the power of a 400cc, not a 125, and I love never having to stop for fuel. Money and practicality has nothing to do with it.

If you don't get it, then you just don't get it. Give up on trying to quantify and justify. The numbers don't add up, but they don't have to. There's more to life.

and...stop being a troll.

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There is no doubt that the vectrix is the best electric bike on the market that goes without saying, but like I said before that just doesn’t say much for the rest.

For sure you get very low refuelling prices but you also get very low range for your money.

At around the price you quoted for refuelling you would need to recharge your bike around 4 to 5 times to cover the same distance a 125cc motorcycle would cover which means an estimated 300 pence or more to cover the same distance as a 125cc which will cost around 7 to 8 pounds to refuel. So the actual cost of refuelling your electric bike may be lower, but then comes the replacement battery which will cost, lets say around 3 to 4 thousand pounds is it?

So if we add that to the cost of the refuelling we get a completely different figure for the running costs.

If the battery lasted as long as claimed then it may well be worth the investment but as it doesn’t it seems way more expensive than claimed.

Of course if you compare the electric bike to a car then yes I can see there are some savings to be made except for the fact that it is not as versatile as a car and is limited in range by a huge amount.

But it’s not a car and comparing it to the type of bike it is classified under ie a 125cc motorcycle, it would only be fare to compare it to a 125cc motorcycle.

And in comparison the 125cc motorcycle comes out way on top by miles years and reliability.

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40 years???

Ok fairenough it was an exageration but considering the cost of the bikes compared to the type of bike it is classified as ie a 125cc then you can see the actual time to get a comparative return on the bike is a very long time, and then you have all the other replacement parts on top.

If it were the other way around and electric bikes were the norm then you would have to same problems with petrol bikes giving you a return for your investment comparative to an electric bike, and without a doubt the electric bike would be favourable, but it’s not.

As WE mentioned before, this is not true. But it seems that you are not interested in understanding the comments posted here.

Ok well let’s look at it this way then as you claim it is not true.

Here we have one board that caters for the vectrix if you check out that board you find so many problems being reported, batteries failing, software failure, company failure, warranty problems, electronics failure, warnings about using a pressure washer on your bike to clean it, bike cutting out on you unexpectedly and for repairs instead of the company putting a repair manual on line for all the owners to access either with a down load along with up dates included in the price of the bike you all have to struggle along trying to make up your own one.

On top of that you can only travel around 35 miles to a full charge maybe a bit better if you on drive around at about 20 mph ha.

All I have asked for here is for people to tell me as many of the positive sides to this bike as possible and comparing it to the type of bike it is classified as by the dpt of transport UK, which is a 125cc.

Now in comparison to this type of bike it is very poor indeed.

Man! You're not very well informed. Regular 125cc motorbikes under city stress, such as honda 125SH, yamaha Xmax 125cc, etc, need engine replacement (1500 euros) every 35.000-40.000 km. A conventional 125cc under your strict parameters is not purchasable.

Not so, if you drove one of the bikes you mentioned the way you are forced to drive your vectrix then the bike would probably last a life time, but even if you do drive it a little hard you will only need to replace things like piston rings and cam chains all quite easy to do and very cheap.

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Quirky!

Yes I agree it is quirky but it also looks very good the styling is much better than most of the scooters i've seen and looking through here i saw an excellent up date to the styling by one of the posters.

But even with all this if it doesn't perform then it is a problem for people that want to change but can't.

It's also got the power of a 400cc, not a 125, and I love never having to stop for fuel. Money and practicality has nothing to do with it.

Well maybe to you, but to the dpt of transport of the UK govt it is no more than a 125cc in fact it is less than a 125cc because it doesn't even go as fast as a 125cc, in fact the 125cc bikes are restricted to 15 bhp so a 125cc could in fact go a lot faster than they are restricted to in the UK and used to, so it is a fare comparison to say that it is not even as powerful as a 125cc restricted motorcycle, and if you push the vectrix up to the same level as a 125cc then your range will suffer greatly.

And yes there is more to life than the numbers but when a product is being sold mostly based on the numbers it seems somewhat unfair to complain about the numbers when they don't add up.

Oh and by the way I thought this was a discussion board to air your views on the subject of the vectrix.

I am open to have my mind changed on it but so far everyone seems to love them but can't say why, even though they cost around the same money or a little less than running a car even with the tax breaks on road tax.

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There is no doubt that the vectrix is the best electric bike on the market that goes without saying, but like I said before that just doesn’t say much for the rest.
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A year or two ago that might have been true, but I'm not so sure about that any more.

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If I go to any board about any motorcycle and most of the postings are about problems the chances are that bike is a problem and probably not worth the money it costs, until they fix the problems.

The vectrix is claimed to do 50,000 miles on a single battery or last 10 years, and yet it seems just about all of them are having their battery changed after 1 to 2 years, where has the other 8 years gone, on top of that they last no more than 30,000 km not even miles.

Now I’m sure that the bike rides nice, even though I have never ridden one, but if the bike is to be a bottomless pit then perhaps it is better for the facts about the bike be known rather than claiming it to be what it is not.

And to be honest the bike is more like that expensive other half that you really don’t want to divorce even though you know he or she is no good for you, right up until that day you open up the throttle to get across some traffic just to find it dies on you and you may end up dieing along with the motor.

I want to see electric bikes on the market and yes it is a good idea to develop them while they are in the market place, but if you invest your money in one, the least you should expect is that company to insure your vehicle can reach a certain level of usability and when it falls short any and all upgrades should be made available at no extra cost promptly if those upgrades are only to ensure the reliable safe running of the vehicle.

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All I have asked for here is for people to tell me as many of the positive sides to this bike as possible and comparing it to the type of bike it is classified as by the dpt of transport UK, which is a 125cc.

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Any decent 125cc bike will blow the VX-1 away off-the-line. The acceleration off-the-line is abominable! It can barely pull a wet herring of a plate!

But between 70km/h and 100km/h it is much more like a 400cc bike.

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I have watched this bike for many years even putting in a phone call in the early days to find out about puchasing one from the USA (i'm glad i didn't) but the thing is if such a vehicle is to catch motorcyclists imagination and pocket then the company has to live up to its guff, or at least near it and where it falls short it should make good to those willing to take a chance.

Yes it's a lot of money but nothing like the amount the punters are putting in, I suspect most of the issues could be delt with DIY kits with clear instructions.

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But between 70km/h and 100km/h it is much more like a 400cc bike.

Ok fine but by the time it gets to that speed the 125cc is long gone and it can do it all day on one tank of fuel, how many times would the vectrix need to be refuelled after a little bit of heavy handed riding?

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just_looking, with regards to the comment about refuelling costs: by my reckoning, 4 to 5 charges is around £1.60 to £2.00 so still a lot less than the £7 to £8 for petrol. Plus, why have you factored in the cost of a battery when I haven't had one? I also note that you haven't mentioned the fact that I haven't had anything go wrong with it and have only replaced wear and tear items like pads and tyres - is that not a huge positive? Over two years it hasn't let me down once - how reliable do you want!? The temperate climate here in the UK seems to suit the Vectrix current battery technology a lot better and I do feel that the last software update restricts the charge and discharge to a much safer level so I'm hoping that I won't need to factor in the cost of a new battery. Though this is new technology, it is currently (and for the foreseeable future) fulfilling all my personal transport needs. I'm comparing it to a car as it relates to my personal situation - I didn't have a motorbike and if it weren't for the Vectrix, still wouldn't. I don't want a petrol bike. Everybody has their own opinion. For me, the Vectrix was a conscious decision that I went into with my eyes wide open, having first researched extensively on this forum and the internet in general. Yes it was a gamble but the past two years have convinced me it was the right one. If the Vectrix died tomorrow I still wouldn't regret buying it and if it did, I am fortunate to have Mr Scott to call on for support. As I only have to race tractors on my ride in to work, acceleration and top speed don't really matter.

Roll on Lithium, I will be looking to trade in for another Vectrix in the next couple of years (fingers crossed). If not, then maybe a new Brammo..... Or maybe I'll just keep my current bike to see how long it keeps going, just to prove you wrong about the reliability, in my particular case!

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MOney 4: Ok fairenough it was an exageration but considering the cost of the bikes compared to the type of bike it is classified as ie a 125cc then you can see the actual time to get a comparative return on the bike is a very long time, and then you have all the other replacement parts on top.

You still don't get it. This maxi-scooter performs between 250-400CC. Comparing the V to a traditional 125cc gas scooter is senseless.
JUST TEST IT. And feel the tremendous torque, the incredible acceleration of it's electric engine.

money 5: If it were the other way around and electric bikes were the norm then you would have to same problems with petrol bikes giving you a return for your investment comparative to an electric bike, and without a doubt the electric bike would be favourable, but it’s not.

If the norm were electrics, nobody would drive any noisy, pollutant, primitive gas scooter. Once you own electric, it's hard to return to fossil fuels.
JUST TEST IT. You'll discover the future.

Here we have one board that caters for the vectrix if you check out that board you find so many problems being reported, batteries failing,
software failure,
company failure,
warranty problems,
electronics failure,
warnings about using a pressure washer on your bike to clean it,
bike cutting out on you unexpectedly
and for repairs instead of the company putting a repair manual on line for all the owners to access either with a down load along with up dates included in the price of the bike you all have to struggle along trying to make up your own one.

Hey, take it easy! Stop being a troll! It's the first electric hi-way capable motorbike in the entire history under mass production!!
The technology was new, the V brand was new, obviously the very fist versions had its issues. However the vast majority of incidences, with exception of the battery have been solved. The 2009-2010 versions are very reliable. As you can see for the posts here, there are plenty vectrix fully operational reliably hanging around. Oh but wait, for you these opinions do not exist!
And about the manual, try to access a service manual of any gas bike. ask Honda, Yamaha, Aprilia you want to get one of these... It is the way it's done...
On the other hand, if a personal computer or a laptop is dirty, would you use pressure water to clean it??

All I have asked for here is for people to tell me as many of the positive sides to this bike as possible and comparing it to the type of bike it is classified as by the dpt of transport UK, which is a 125cc.

Certainly.. and because the answers were senseless using MONEY or INVESTMENT parameters, your mind couldn't process those abstract appreciations and decided to systematically ignore them...
JUST TEST IT. And your mind will no longer ignore these abstract, positive comments about vectrix.

Not so, if you drove one of the bikes you mentioned the way you are forced to drive your vectrix then the bike would probably last a life time, but even if you do drive it a little hard you will only need to replace things like piston rings and cam chains all quite easy to do and very cheap.

Wrong again! Careful, you make assumptions that are usually wrong.
You regard the Vectrix as if it is a children's toy, but it is a beast similar to a 250-400CC maxiscooter. JUST TEST IT. And you'll discover the brilliant performance of this bike.

Another wrong assumption: " the way you are forced to drive your vectrix then the bike would probably last a life time"
What makes you think that I'm crawling inside Barcelona? Believe me when I tell you that my vectrix, despite having the battery damaged, is still accelerating like hi-end scooters. I suggest you visit Barcelona, and see how tmax 500 silverwing 600, burgmans 400, sh 300, quickly accelerate to 80-90 km/h inside the city. I'm sure you'll see me between these scooters with my V at full speed.
JUST TEST IT. Feel how your money fears and anxiety range vanish.
But among everything, after making a test drive, don't buy it.
You may say that the future is not ready for you. But in my opinion, the problem is that you're not ready for the future.

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