EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor with a top speed of 50mph?

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EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER
EVOLUTION will help us ride the future.
Our flag ship bike, 50-amp batteries and 3500-watt motor with a top speed of 50mph (80km/h) and a range of 90 miles (150km)

Dimensions L/W/H - D1834mm/696mm/1290mm
Wheel Base - 1520mm
Tire/Rim size - 130/60, 13inch
Weight (with batteries) - 231lbs (367lbs 45AH)
Motor - DC Brush 3,500 watt, 48 volt
Max Speed - 50mph, 80km/h
Max Range - 90m/144km
Battery Life - 700 Cycles
Battery Type - 4x12v 45AH sealed lead acid gel
Charging Time - 2-8hrs (initial charge up to 12hrs)
Voltage Charger - Single or Dual 110/220v AC, 50/80 HZ

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EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor with a top speed

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Check on Topic
http://visforvoltage.org/forum/motorcycles-and-large-scooters/1657

Also

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor with a top speed

How much do you guess it will cost?
Why is this bike with 4 12V batteries going to go faster than the xm-2000 with 5 12V batteries?

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor with a top speed

I would guess more amps through the controller and the big thing is 13" wheels. We seem to overlook that very much in discussions. Many of the scooters discussed on this forum have 10" wheels. What size does the XM-2000 have?

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor...

Somehow I doubt the range can be 90 miles with 48V 45Ah SLAs. And the "50-amp" is confusing as well.

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"Motor - DC Brush 3,500 watt, 48 volt"

Why not use brushless DC motor!???

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It's my understanding from my very limited knowledge, you can do more mods with a Brushed Motor than a Brush less.
Someone else will have to explain why.

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor...

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Somehow I doubt the range can be 90 miles with 48V 45Ah SLAs. And the "50-amp" is confusing as well.

More like 19 miles if you are lucky. I have 600 amp batteries on my motorcycle. 50 amps is weak ;)

A brush motor is much easier to mod because it can take a DC input from a brush DC motor controller which are very common and cheap. Brushless controllers are more expensive and less interchangeable. They are more complex because they need to take input from position sensors and switch the phases effectively taking over in a way what a mechanical commutator would do.

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Thanks EV Tech Advisor Andrew, your a wonderful Community resource, wish we had more like you.

EV Advisor changed to EV Tech - Volunteers are still needed

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor...

Somehow I doubt the range can be 90 miles with 48V 45Ah SLAs.

This is typical of EV makers to quote the highest speed they ever got, and quote the longest range they ever got. And they're never achieved at the same time.

The trick to the long range is to get a real skinny person (not me) to ride it at extremely moderate speed on a flat course with lots of coasting.

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt motor...

Brushed motors need more maintenance: cleaning brush dust in the motor regularly and change of worn-out brush and commutator.

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Re: EVADER EXO8 E SCOOTER:, 3500-watt moto

Let's figure out Your claims

http://kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm

Is a bicycle calculator, but let's take Your data in the sheet

Roadstar
367 lb as bicycle weight
80km/h 50 mph
makes 4829 Watt power required.

And 150 km ?!?

I test drive now since 6130km an E-Max S

So I know for sure, no 45 Ah 48V scooter will go 150km with 45km/h

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Not my claims, that came from there site.
FWIW, seems you all are correct. I sent them a email about the claim and got this answer:

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the only Evader model that I know of available currently is
the E- 1000 specs are more like 1000 watt motor 35-40mph and approx.
40-45 miles in range
I believe their are a few floor models available. They may have a few
scratches on them but you can save about $400 to $500 on a unit. Price
is $1,899.00.
If you might be interested let me know.

Thank you for the opportunity to Quote you.
Regards

Peter Spoto
Sales Manager
866.504.6577

gekgos@gmail.com
www.gekgo.com

It seems they don't know what's on there own website. See http://www.gekgo.com/evader_e_scooters.html at the bottom.

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I don't think anyone from the old forum ever mentioned seeing the 3500 watt model in person. Evader's old website had it with more pictures. It didn't have a wheel motor, as you can see, it had a chain drive. They must have removed it when they updated their website. I don't think it will ever materialize unless they can put a different battery type in it without bringing the price up very high. They may have noted the range drawbacks with that kind of power using lead-acid batteries during development.

It makes a lot more sense to put smaller motors in scooters now, and sell them for a lot less. This way you still get decent range, and you are not paying for power that would cut down the range and make the vehicle impractical for most people anyway.

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`andrew,
I believe your correct, back then all the excitement was for the new bigger 2200 watt E Runner and a chance to actually see and ride one September 30th, 2006 at the EV Rally in Palo Alto, CA..
FWIW, problems started showing up on the old forum several weeks latter, and the rest is history.

You have a very good point:

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It makes a lot more sense to put smaller motors in scooters now, and sell them for a lot less. This way you still get decent range, and you are not paying for power that would cut down the range and make the vehicle impractical for most people anyway.

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I can see the logic much better now after doing my project. I think a much less powerful scooter is a lot more practical. Any gas bike can do 80 on the highway for as long as you can keep the throttle pulled back, and stop for gas every hour or two. There's not really any reason to put that kind of power on an electric vehicle unless you are racing. Make the EVs do what they do best:

Small light and efficient so it can be charged from solar/wind
Low power cheap components to buy so it can complement but not replace a gas vehicle
Cheap to maintain and keep "fueled" so it is great for everyday trips to work and such
Generally for convenience: which can mean less maintenance, no oil changes, no going to the gas station, and no dirty engine to work on.
Plus a nice quiet ride

Given how much I've worked on my bike, I think its purpose now is a novelty that I take out occasionally to show off, or have some fun. I don't want to get it in an accident or put too much wear on it. I need a cheap scooter to take the wear and tear, and I'm really excited about the Z20. It'll be great for charging from solar too.

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