Thinking About buying A Prodeco Phantom X2
I didn't even know that this brand existed until a few days ago. I was going to try to put a front hub kit on my 25 YO mountain bike this Winter, but having read reviews of the Prodecos I'm seriously considering buying one, using a free financing offer from a third party. Does anyone here have a Phantom, Genesis, or any model Prodeco bicycle? I've read the reviews at Amazon, and the main complaints seem to be the disk brakes (too hard to adjust so they don't rub) and the thumb throttle, which has been replaced in the new model year by a half-twist throttle. I need to be as upright as possible, and I'm exploring the possibility of getting a Phantom X2 (because of the bigger battery, mainly) with Genesis midrise handlebars substituted, and possibly a suspension seatpost. Any helpful input would be appreciated.
I've never owned one - but the last time I went to InterBike (in 2010) I talked for a long while with the Prodeco guys, and did a brief test ride of one or two of their bikes. I was impressed with their attitude, and thought the bikes were well built and rode well. I see on the website "Made in America" so that's good for something.
What do you mean by "as upright as possible"?
I'm guessing you may mean the same preference I have for the Electra Townie or Giant Suede both of which I have and both of which have you sitting upright on a seat that's low enough you can put your feet on the ground w/o dismounting.
I really like this seating style a lot and have no interest in going back to one of the lean-over-the-handlebars bicycles again.
Unfortunately most of the electric bike makers don't seem to be thinking about cargo bikes. Oh well.
FWIW on my Townie, I carry the battery pack in a Topeak back on a rear rack. The pack is a 36 volt 10 amp hour I bought from pingping about 3 years ago, weight is 10+ lbs and I carry the charger too. It doesn't seem to unbalance the bike, and I haven't had much worry over carrying other things on the rack. However for real cargo needs I attach a trailer to the bike.
I'm a bicycle mechanic.
I have a few options to check out for you:
Bike racks, Panniers, etc...
Bicycle Seats with Backrest:
Google/bicycle seats with backrest
Modify or make a rear rack to go over your existing rack to accept Panniers'
Also check out handlebar Bags.
Also check out bike trailers:
Your wishlist is not visible to others so I don't know precisely which pack you mean. Most of the packs they're listing are using Headway batteries but with no BMS. I have to say that lithium packs require a BMS and that those saying otherwise are being foolish. I've got some Headway cells here and they're very fragile w/o BMS. I have the dead cells to prove it.
I have no idea about the motor.
I myself have bought two kits from e-BikeKit.com and am happy with them. The motor on my Electra Townie is one of their geared front hub kits - that makes the bike light enough to relatively easily lift and move around. Can't say that for other electric bikes I've owned.
It's also worth questioning those guys whether they are certified lithium shippers. There is an international ban on shipping lithium battery packs by air, unless the packs are protected in the appropriate container during transit. There are many vendors ignoring this ban, illegally.
Same thing here: despite 409 points (for whatever, I never found an explanation how such points come about...) my reply yesterday evening to the "EV Pricing" topic only showed up for maybe one second, along with a red notice saying something like "your post has been sent to the moderator for inspection". It only showed up this morning, just as yours has here too. It will be interesting to see if the problem still persists this morning.
And yes, it is highly unfortunate that we cannot reply to Dave's "Anti-spammer measures" announcement, but this may have to do with the classification as an announcement? Dave, could you change that somehow so this discussion can evelove in the proper thread.
In any case I think this is good idea, as long as it works as intended and lets us "longtimers" (just a little over 1 year for me :-) post as before!
EDIT (it STILL works :-): My post showed up immediately (well, after waiting for some 30 seconds, but that is not unusual), and in parallel I got a new email from VisforVoltage stating that now 100points are necessary for posting "book pages". This is getting interesting...
Congrats on making the move to lithium. Looks like a nice bike. Hmm, that CA you bought would work nicely on this bike.
It's hard to believe that any person could be this hapless. Maybe just bad Chi?
BTW, I was serious about the CA on the bike. It was originally intended for bicycles and most of the serious e-bikers out on endless sphere use and appreciate their CA.
Could their be an Authorized dealer in your area?
Might be cheaper to drive to dealer if not to far.
On the handlebar...there should be a lever that controls the Lock-Out for the Fork.
looks similar to this:
I can't upload a picture for some reason, but this should be the what it looks like :
In case Prodeco used a diferent fork:
Send me any info you can of the fork.
And i will get more specific info for you.
Sorry you are having so much trouble with your bike.