Dead ESD succesfuly replaced by great Elcon Charger on my Vectrix!

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Afo
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My EDS died, I suspect my BMS helped killing it by turning it on and off too frequently for too long during the balancing.
My BMS is the EMUS BMS from here: https://www.elektromotus.lt/product-category/emus-bms/ I'm quite happy with it, but required a charger that can be turned on/off other than by just unpluged it, and that lower the current after 80% charging. That is some of the reasons I choose the Elcon which has a on/off input pin, and is programmed exactly for the Nissan Leaf Module I have in my vectrix. The other thing of course is this charger fits into the place of the ESD charger.

So I have choosen the ELCON 1500W charger from here: http://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/7344653/7638003.htm I ask for the program 517a with 10 options that allows to go from 38 to 28 Leaf Cells. it cost me nearly 700$: 525$ + 85$ shipment to France + 60$ tax. Not cheap at all, but great charger.

I Attached some pictures of the charger before mounting, and some once mounted. It took me one full week end to mount, was quite cumbersome to find the right approach to attach it inside so the scooter side can still close.

I added some fans, but these will be usefull only at full charge during the hot weather.

If I new about this charger, I would have changed the ESD a long time ago. It is far better with the leaf cells.

Hope this is useful to others!

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Re: Dead ESD succesfuly replaced by great Elcon Charger on ...

Very nice job, the ELCON will be my next one when my ESD goes bad.

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Re: Dead ESD succesfuly replaced by great Elcon Charger on ...

Have a look at the new TC Charger, 1800W and about 1/3 of the size and weight of the 1500W model, TC Charger and Elcon are the same.
Bought one for my scooter and it works really fine, normally they are CANBUS-controlled but they made a special one for me with a 2 wire on-off control.
Cheaper than the 1500W aswell, only $265 +freight and taxes.
One thing though, I don't know if TC Charger sells to private individuals, bought it through my company...

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Re: Dead ESD succesfuly replaced by great Elcon Charger on ...

I LIKE.

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Just looked at TC and Elcon websites, did not see this charger. Could you advise model number?

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boeingpilot wrote:

Just looked at TC and Elcon websites, did not see this charger. Could you advise model number?

If you go to www.tccharger.com and choose their chinese website, you can find it.
The model I have is HK-H116-16.
I have the pdf in English as well, if anyone wants it I can e-mail it, just send me a message.
Not sure if this charger will fit a Vectrix though, seems like the maximum voltage is 132V, but maybe they have higher voltage models not yet implemented.
They have a new 3.3kW model as well, a fitting one would be the one with up to 198V and 23A. Size: 239x222x131mm. Price: $400.

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The 144V (up to 198V) version looks really promising!

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Well.... you're posting may have been prophetic......

Decided to ride the 30 odd miles up to my son's college to drop off some items he left home. Plugged into a public Clipper Creek Charger via a J1772 adapter, as it would be a tight ride home otherwise.

Stopped on way to get coffee, and when I got back to the bike it wasn't charging, and the Clipper Creek was showing a fault. Cycled the J1772 adapter and could hear the contactor close, but still not good. Got home, plugged into 110 outlet, nothing....

I guess it was too good to be true, a troublefree bike with Leaf cells......

So, I guess I'll find out if I can get one of these new TC's

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Hi Afo,

I am happy to see that someone else has also successfully installed one of these Elcon chargers!

I am curious: Did you have any problems mounting the charger so that the bottom of the charger
does not touch the front wheel fork when the handlebars are turned all the way to the right?
I have found that if I position the charger so that the fork can not ever touch it, then I will
have to cut some of the heatsink fins on the charger off where they will interfere with the
location inside of the right front ferring near the notch. Did you encounter this problem?

Here is a picture of my charger mounting:

ElconChargerMount

I have not yet installed the ferring or cut back the heatsink fins in this photo. It is on my To-Do list for this project.

I chose to control the charger voltage and current with my own microcontroller board, so I chose the Elcon option that has the
CAN bus input. You can see the Elcon CAN option adapter in the lower right of the photo with the white background. The
microcontroller board is in the 3-d printed box in the foreground of the photo with the grey body and the blue lid.

A warning about fans: When my ESD charger died, it was very clear that one of the original cooling fans (mounted to
the plenum on the ESD charger next to the cooling fins) had seized up. For those of you who want to keep your
existing ESD chargers alive: Remove that front ferring and check that your charger fans are working properly!
I wish I had done just that.

-Kurt

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Re: Dead ESD succesfuly replaced by great Elcon Charger on ...

The 3.3kw appears to be liquid cooled.

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Can anybody confirm if this 3,3kw charger can be air cooled, and if it has CAN interface?

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According to my pdf there is an air cooled version and they are all Canbus controlled.

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According to my pdf there is an air cooled version and they are all Canbus controlled.

Looks really promissing!!
Where can I download that pdf?

*Edit*
Just found some pictures and data of this charger. It has Air cooled version, and it is CAN enabled.
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