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New Evader scooters

Some of you may have seen the new Evader scooter models that were up for sale on Ebay. Well, I bought one for $550 plus $100 shipping and it arrived today. At this price they are an amazing bargain! This is a well built, well designed scooter with a 48V, 45AH battery pack and a 1000W hub motor, so it will do only 30 mph (which is reaches fairly quickly if you use the "hyper drive" button), but the range is 40-45 miles on a charge. The dashboard is all digital with a real-time ammeter built in, and there are numerous other unexpected features such as automatic sensors that turn on the dashboard lights whenever it gets dark and a cell phone "call coming in" feature I haven't tried yet. There is also a seat switch that prevents one from accidentally turning the throttle while standing next to the scooter and having the thing take off on its own.

The scooter has bigger wheels than most full size electric scooters have, and the whole thing just seems to be built much better than my old Evader or the Emax scooter I test rode a while back. It is heavy - over 300 lbs, and it came bolted to a welded steel frame which I had to remove to get to the scooter!

I'll post more info and some pictures once I have had a chance to do some more riding.

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Where is the company web site?

Please remind us, where is their web site? http://www.evadermotorsports.com/ ??

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That is the Evader company

That is the Evader company web site, but the scooter I bought was from a seller in Colorado who had bought the scooters from a dealer who was probably going out of business. That's the only explanation I can think of for the price.

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Update on new Evader scooters

Well, I've now put about 30 miles on my new Evader scooter, and everything seems to work great. The tires are a full 19" in diameter, making for a smooth and safe ride, and the acceleration is much better than on my old Evader even without using the "hyperdrive" button. Top speed is 30-31 mph and the scooter will go up most hills in my area at 22-25 mph.

I have some pictures to upload, but when I try to upload them it tells me I have a quota of 0 bytes. Does anyone know how to get a non-zero quota so I can add some pics to my posts?

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Evader pics

Well, with the help of the moderator, I think I have figured this picture insertion thing out. Here are a couple of pics of the new Evader.P1010003.jpgP1010004.jpg

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Wow! I can't believe I

Wow! I can't believe I missed out on this deal! My favorite color too. Great scooter and for the price.... super cool. The instrument panel looks great to.

Ok wait a minute

I love my EVT
I love my EVT
I love my EVT
I love my EVT
I love my EVT
I love my EVT

I'll just keep saying it over and over ;-)

Can you give us some real world range estimations?

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They are here and they don't even know it.

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Evader range

It's been unseasonably warm in Maryland lately, so I took the new Evader out on a 21 mile ride today and I still had "gas in the tank" at the end of the run. This is only my second charge cycle on this scooter, so it's probably too early to do a true range test, but it looks like it should go at least 30 miles on a charge.

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any More?

Do you know if there are any more up there on Ebay?
How is the machine doing?
Is there anyway to upgrade the batteries?
You got a great deal, as it was 20% of what the evade site MSRP...!
How does the cell phone thing work? Also, do you know if it is a brushed motor?

thanks,
Matt

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More?

Matt:

The scooter is going great! I believe that the fellow who sold me mine had only four of them. He sold three on Ebay and I bought the fourth after contacting him directly. I don't know what you mean by upgrading the batteries, since 48V, 45 AH is about as big a battery pack as you can put on a scooter, but if you mean moving to NIMHD or Lithium I think it would be prohibitively expensive. I haven't tried the cell phone indicator yet, but the manual says a light on the dashbord lights up when a cell phone is ringing. I have no idea how it might work.

The motor is a brushed motor, which is probably a disadvantage, but the scooter is very quiet (brushless motors usually make more noise). I'm attaching a picture of the motor.
P1010001.jpg

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What a deal

So there are no more?

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More?

Well, I'm sure there are more at the various Evader dealers around the country, but the price will be over $2,000. One of those rare experiences where yielding to the temptation to jump at a bargain paid off :>)

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Evader after 150 miles

Now that I've gone over 150 miles on the new Evader scooter, I can give a better report on it. So far, all has gone perfectly. The scooter has a maximum speed of about 30-31 mph checked against a radar gun, and at 30 mph it draws about 20 Amps (the real time ammeter is great!). Given the battery pack size (2.2 Kwhr) it should go about 45 miles on a charge on level ground at top speed, though under more realistic conditions the range seems to be around 30-35 miles. Going up steep hills it draws up to 55 amps and goes 20-25 mph. The brakes are quiet (!) and very effective (front disc, back drum). One nice feature is that the turn signals make a loud clicking sound when they're on to remind you to turn them off after a turn (my previous Evader made no sounds when the turn signals were on so I was always forgetting to turn them off).

I know the term "well made" is rarely used in the context of electric scooters, but this one really does seem to be put together well. There are no squeaks or rattles and it generally seems to made like a brick outhouse compared to my previous Evader. The standard charger is a nice 24V, 8 Amp charger that seems to use a relay to switch the four batteries into two sets of two for charging purposes. This is a really nice idea since it is like a battery management system on the cheap as it avoids the some of the problems inherent in charging long strings of batteries. Interestingly, my Soneil 48 charger also works fine, so it looks like the scooter is smart enough to tell the difference and only switch the batteries into two strings when the 24V charger is plugged in.

So far, a fine experience.

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Evaders side by side

Here's a pic of the front end of my two evader scooters (2004 and 2006 models) side by side. The old Evader is more like the typical Chinese scooter, while the new one is substantially beefier everywhere. Note the difference in wheel size and shock diamter.P1010002.jpg

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Any other pictures of the

Any other pictures of the difference between the 2 scooters ?? I saw one of the 2004 Evader scooters on Ebay recently that SOLD for about $500, which seems to be a pretty good deal. What kind of batteries does the the new EVADER scooter use and how are they arranged. Also what is the fastest you been with it ?? Thanks for any info. God Bless .

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New vs old

The new Evaders come with a 48V, 45 AH battery pack, whereas the old Evader came with 48V, 35 AH batteries. The top speed on the flat on the new Evader is 30-31 mph, whereas it was 25-26 mph on the old one. The result is that the range seems to be about the same, 30 miles or so. The batteries in both cases are under the seat, so there is scant storage room there. The new one has a place to put the charger under the seat and the luggage compartment is big enough (barely) to hold my helmet.

That one that sold on Ebay for $500 was certainly a good deal. I have almost 1000 miles on my old Evader.

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New vs old

decibel1
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You really know how to hurt a guy.
So you have two Evaders, and I assume the $500 steal is a old one?

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New and old Evaders

I paid $600 plus shipping for the old Evader and $550 plus $100 (!) shipping for the new one. Both were bought from sellers advertising them on Ebay, though I actually did the deals by contacting them directly. Both were brand new in the box. I have no idea how they could sell these scooters for those prices, as I presume the wholesale price is greater than the amount I paid, but in both cases they seemed to be from sellers who had acquired them as a result of dealers going out of business.

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You lucky lucky dog you

decibel1,
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You were very lucky or a very good shopper, this is really the first time I've seen to positive replies about Ebay and E Scooters. I had a chance to get a deal like that but I was scared on what I would get. One fellow bought on and said it was find, that might have been you on the old V. So I figured you got the best one and the others were probably broken and stuff' So I missed out again. When I finally get the nerve, I'll end up with some junk. Of course you didn't get a warranty or anything, what about paperwork to get it registered?

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Evader paperwork

I did get the registration paperwork, though none is required in Maryland, and I got a warranty card which says that the scooter is guaranteed for one year (two years on the batteries). Haven't tested that, of course, as everything has been fine.

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