New Flybo NEV

On the EVFINDER Noel has this to say about them: Use caution with this listing, no state so far has allowed NEVS to go over 25mph and this may be illegal under Federal Law

There's two ways around federal (DOT) testing... NEV's that go slow, or a three wheeler such as the Xebra. But for a vehicle to forgo either route means the vehicle doesn't have the level of safety testing which us Americans have become accustomed.

- David Herron, http://davidherron.com/

who is to say it isn't as safe??? just because it doesn't have to meet the standards does not say that it doesn't

Their website shows a nice electric scooter too.
http://www.flybo.cn/xf/product_new.asp?id=235
http://www.flybo.cn/xf/pic/2007314160828.jpg

Specs: Product name XF-03Z
Speed 50km/h
Distance 60～80km
battery capacity 48v, 17ah(two sets)
Recharge time >250次
Charge time 5～8h
Input voltage 220v
power:800W
Board material ABS
Tire size 3.5-10

Although, here in Washington State there is a possiblity that the law will be adjusted to allow NEV's to travel up to 35 mph. See article on Green Car Congress:

Hopefully this will fly through and other states will follow suit. This would do wonders for increasing the viability of NEV's.

who is to say it isn't as safe??? just because it doesn't have to meet the standards does not say that it doesn't

er... let's think about this logic for a moment. You make an assertion that X is safe but you do not test the assertion. Have you proven anything?

When the DOT tests a car they prove that it's safe, by the standards they've set to determine safety. That's a provable thing .. they made an assertion .. they tested it .. they recorded the results .. they gave or denied certification ..

Is a vehicle that has not undergone safety testing safe? Duh, who knows? It's safety hasn't been measured so it's an unknown quantity.

All that said ... what I think really determines safety is the quality of the driver more than anything. If the driver is paying attention to their surroundings they've got a better chance of avoiding running into other cars. If the collision doesn't happen then you don't need to worry about whether the vehicle is safe or unsafe in a collision, because you haven't had the collision in the first place.

At the same time there are ways where uncertified vehicles could be unsafe. If a vehicle is made out of substandard parts (because it doesn't have to be DOT tested and therefore the maker scrimps on construction quality) then maybe it will fall apart on you. Or if the vehicle parts are only rated for 25 miles/hr (because that's all the vehicle is rated for) and the owner says "screw that, I'm going to drive it faster, where's that turbocharger" if the vehicle is unable to stop because the owner is pushing it beyond its rated limits, then the vehicle is being driven unsafely whereas if the owner kept the vehicle within its rated limits it would be safe.

- David Herron, http://davidherron.com/

As reikiman pointed out, there are other a lot of components, safety systems, and overall vehicle design that comes into play. My golf cart that starts to rock back and forth once you get over 25 if you can find a big hill. Good fun, but I wouldn't want to push it much faster!

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What depresses me somewhat is WHO is trying to sell the Flybos, his creditability and the fact that these sell in europe for 3200 euros. That is half the US price even after the conversion from the $12900 their asking.

Also I would argue, is this Flybo really any less safe than say a 1975 Citicar? or for that matter a 1985 Yugo? Crash standards are nice but generally these limited range vehicles are not going to be used in the same way as a normal full range, full size, full speed car. The likelyhood of a 75mph crash in one of these is quite small and the standards required for normal vehicles which do encounter that situation DO NOT APPLY to a vehicle of this type that will likely be used as a city street commuter and not an interstate highway vehicle.

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Thats kinda what I figured. I wonder if anyone besides michael has gotten a flybo and drives it?

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I remember reading about the Flybo. It was a design copied from a picture of a Smart Car. Not a reverse engineered vehicle in any way, but a little photograph that they took and crafted a full size vehicle from. Too funny!!! They wanted to cash in on the popularity of the upcoming Smart Car invasion by creating a knock off. I bet they finally got caught by Smart and were sued.

Who'd want a 25 MPH car only good in the neighborhood anyway? Even the other states that recently passed the moderate speed electric vehicle law that made it 35 MPH missed the mark in my opinion.

You really need something on the order of 45 MPH to make on a decent mix of roadways around a given city (while avoiding the highways of course). Lower than that and the surrounding traffic is riding on you and you feel the pressure to pull over and let them pass.

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Even the other states that recently passed the moderate speed electric vehicle law that made it 35 MPH missed the mark in my opinion.

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