Arguments for Electric Vehicle Recharging Stations
A forum to collect information that can be used to support applications for new recharging stations.
To convince your boss, your company, your country to support your efforts in getting Electric Vehicles running and keeping them running.
Mr. Mik
In my experience, to be most effective in any argument you need to know how to persuade your audience. Hence, you need to know the audience well. It might be all fine and good to praise electric vehicles, and their benefits, but they might not care. And this might not carry any weight to help persuade.
Government organizations are usually strictly opposed to discrimination. You could base your argument on the fact that your method of transportation requires that you recharge at work. For them to not provide that opportunity could be considered discrimination and unfair to you, because it would not permit you to travel to work. It is as if you need a wheelchair and the building is not suitable for one. Or if you need light indoors to work, and the company doesn't allow you to use a light bulb because this would set precedent (even though you can't possibly bring the energy for the light with you, and you need light to see being human).
I know this is kind of far out, but this could set the opening stage. They will be hit off guard because you've gone straight from the defensive to the offensive, and they will be more inclined to just give you the outlet (which is really a petty thing) ![]()
Than you can cover how cheap the electricity that you need is, and how little energy you use. Your desktop computer (if you have one at work) will likely use more energy over the course of one day than charging the vectrix. And let them know that you'd gladly reimburse them 200% of the energy cost, even though you don't for your desktop computer, or for running the lights that you use. And not that it would matter anyway to you, because you can mention that this is only a few dollars per month anyway that they are so strained to incur.
Next, you could briefly cover how BEVs don't emit any pollutants that cause smog. This is chiefly why the CARB mandate was enacted in California in the early 1990s---to help with their smog problems. Do some research on smog and the health effects.
Than finally, you can end on a positive note that if the company provides you an outlet, they will be helping to facilitate positive environmental change. You might even consider contacting your local news paper in regards to how they chose to proceed. Mention how this could be very good green opportunity or very bad for their PR, and you could get the message out that the company is taking a positive stance by providing a motorcycle EV charging space. Your closing statement should be something on the lines of "the ball is in your court, it's your move", so they can feel like they are in control and making the decision, and it's their actions that will result in whatever consequences may follow.
Great submission Mik. I cant believe these people did not jump on the opportunity for some goodwill and media opportunity that could have been brought upon them by just allowing you to do this first up.
xxxx xxxxx true to it's mission statement is doing more to look after the health of Queensland residents... ...
How hard is it to change the tide on this mass thinking and complacency really... Sorry non thinking. There surely can't be anyone that really thinks that reducing pollution is a bad thing???
Good luck.
I didn't read every word of this post so I hope I'm not repeating....
My instinct says the compnay will say "What happens if 80% of the staff starts using electrc vehicles? Will we be required to install outlets for everyone and donate all that money to charity?"
I'll be interested to see how this plays out. I wish you the best of luck, but my gut says they will say "get more batteries".
Translation: We will do nothing because we don't care. But, because we don't want to say no, we'll put it into planning for someone to do something at some time...can you please just go away?
Translation: We will do nothing because we don't care. But, because we don't want to say no, we'll put it into planning for someone to do something at some time...can you please just go away?
In the team I work in that wouldn't be an accurate translation. I've seen several presentations to the management where management overall liked the proposal, but the proposal wasn't well enough conceived or had a hole or two, and they vote to "redirect" meaning that the proposer has to go back, rework the proposal a bit, perhaps bring it to another management body for consideration,etc, with the understanding that they had to come back "shortly" with an improved proposal or with the holes filled in the proposal. "Further study" doesn't have to mean a fancy way of "we're burying this".
Yeah, you're right, it sometimes or often does mean it's being buried.
I recall a news piece on National Public Radio approx 10 yrs ago.. it was about proposals to grow Hemp in Kentucky for stuff like paper or cloth production. A member of one of Central Kentucky's leading families had grown sick of growing Tobacco and the clear health badness that comes from Tobacco. He has been proposing to deprecate Kentucky's role in growing Tobacco, and to replace that with Industrial Hemp. Tobacco is very big business in Kentucky. The NPR piece discussed lots of great reasons for this, environmental and otherwise. And clearly Hemp grows very well in Kentucky, just witness all the Marijuana grown there. But the last voice heard on that piece was a very officious sounding guy from either the Government or U of Ky who harrumphed about needing to study this further. And of course that was never approved...
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, as I have not read the whole post, but I would think that the POSITIVE attention that this can generate for the company, showing that this company is doing its small part to help the environment and to encourage alternative fuel vehicles. Just my thought. God Bless :)

Well, good while it lasted:
City of London Withdraws free Electric Vehicle Parking
Hi Mik!
To follow up JDELUNA's idea, I'd encourage you to see if you can get some local press coverage on the event of having those outlets installed. If you can get a reporter to do a peice on it, be sure to involve the person that was reluctant to grant your request, as well as the other executive members. That will probably benefit you to get them some public kudos.








I work for a large government organization which has the expressed goal of improving the populations health.
There is a suitable power point at my workplace right where I need it, at the designated bike parking spot. It works. My Vectrix' power plug can be screwed into it in a water-proof way.
A recent Executive Meeting has decided against my application to use this power point, probably due to concerns it would "create a precedent".
I am appealing against this decision and might get invited to the next Executive Meeting for a short presentation to support the case.
I would like to quote scientific evidence or other quotes from highly respected sources like universities, celebrities and similar folk.
My argument will probably be along these lines:
A) Not only should the committee not worry about creating a precedent, it should instead actively encourage the use of electric vehicles.
B) The overall cost to the community are greatly reduced by using electric vehicles.
C) Electric Vehicles reduce pollution, health problems, greenhouse emissions, and burning of fossil fuels.
D) It is the declared intention of many governments to achieve the reductions (C) by a variety of means.
E) Spending a few dollars for electricity might cause large savings due to prevention of disease and environmental damage.
Any suggestions?
I'd like to send a polished email to the meeting attendants before the meeting, hand out a double sided A4 sheet of information and speak freely for a few minutes to them.
Graphs depicting scientific evidence supporting the above claims would be most useful to get the message across in a flash.
Thanks,
Mr. Mik
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