help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
hi all my sons e-max 110s scooter i have just noticed that the rear break light keeps on.
there is no other fault just rear light keeping on side light comes on the front and so does the
dip and main beam aswell . but the rear tail light keeps on as well the break light they are both the same filliment bulb i have taken this bulb out
and and turned it around/ twisted the bulb and the light comes on dull
and is not meant to go this was and the rear brake light doesn.t come on i carnt seem to find any obvious faults ??
but i have checked the first thing was the switches. on the break leavers
they seem to be fine but i am reading 12 volts at each side of the leavers on the electrics
any help
??
or any idears am shure that it carnt be much but ave spent half a day on it so far chears kev...
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Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
so to be clear, its only the indicator that is always on?
it is likely to be the control circuit for the indicator relay, or the relay itself that has failed (or both)
i dont know where that is on the 110s ( i havent pulled my 90s apart yet), but thats what you need to look for.
trace out the wires from the indicator, which ever box they go to, thats what needs replacing.
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Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
hi matt think we got wires crossed ....
the probblem i am having is that the rear break light is keeping on and i carn't seem to knock it off
. the indecators are all working fine and so to the lights at the front of scooter are working fine
ITS JUST THE REAR BREAK LIGHT is keeping on av got it apart now trying to find the fault
if you can help that would be great and that goes for any one too . ???????????
Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
Have you checked the sensors at the brake leavers?
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Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
hi yep they show 12v+ then when sqweezing the break lever the voltage goes to 00.00 thats with
both so would presume that all ok at this end but carnt seem to find any fuse box as such
seems to be when connecting the rear bulb like a short but keeps on like an arking but light keeps on
so might try prosses of elimanation my be pull on of the three wires off and do bit by bit
in the fillament bulb both fillaments are keeping on i/e rear tail light and rear brake light aswell same time
its got me so far seem simple but as always need that last jigsaw pice
???????????????thanks kev
Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
Maybe the brake levers controll a relay that sends the actual voltage to the light, and it is stuck on. Built into the conrtoller maybe?
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Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
hi yeh. chears for that. urm
what i have just done is cut a the green /and yellow positive cable going to the rear break light .
and i have the rear side light working .but when i touch the wire that i cut it makes a big arking blue spark
and then the rear break light comes on aswell as the rear side light
some thing seems not right ..????????????
kev
Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
You should really look into the sensor/switch that engages the brake light when you push the brake. try cutting the wires (2) to the circuit that the switch would normally break and see if the tail light goes to normal, then try putting the wires together manually to see if the break light comes on. If so then you need a new relay/switch/sensor (whatever you want to call it) :)
If its all in a controller you may need a new one. Hope this helps.
Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
On this bike, what are all the things that turn the brake light on?
R and L Brake Switch, ...
Kick Stand, Motor or Controller over-temperature or Fault?
Was it working correctly?
If so, did somebody make any changes, or, this just started all by itself?
Eliminate one source at a time.
If you disconnect both brake switches and it stays on, it must be something else.
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Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
hey gary i have had too leave the scooter for a little wile as
some time when you have been working so hard to try to find a fault its best to go away and
think about it a diffrent way and with what you have just said .
by jove that might be it the scooter has a side stand and may have a switch on the side stand and keeping on if so .should be a quick fix
keep finger crossed . i will hav a good look tomorrow .thanks kev
Re: help needed urgent ( carn't seem to find fault )
all micro switches are working fine .
the break light just came ... on and never gone out since
not too shore best way forward ????
in getting break light to work proppley ?????
any ideas .??????thanks kev..