My little mo-ped conversion doesn't have a battery gauge yet -- although I do have a Watts Up.
I'm wondering how low / empty I should run my SLAs until. I'm running on a two battery system, so it's nominally 24 volts.
I thought it was OK to run it down to 21 volts (under load), but reading through some of the pages on Battery University, they made it seem like anything under 12 volts per battery was over discharging. But if I quit when the battery dipped below 24 volts, I'd hardly get off the ground.....
So how low do you guys run your SLAs down to?
Karen
I run them into the ground somewhere around 10.5V/batt or even a little lower. It's better to not go below 10.75-11V, but SLA sucks so I don't care.
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since you have a wattsup meter, your are better off measuring the AH taken from the pack rather than the voltage for determining state of charge.
just make sure the AH you pull from the pack between charges is 70-80% or less of the rated AH capacity at 1C.
The voltage you can pull SLA down too depends upon battery, rate of discharge and temperature.
Matt
Daily Ride:
2007 Vectrix, modified with 42 x Thundersky 60Ah in July 2010. Done 194'000km
Thanks for the tips and comments! I've been pulling it down to 21V (10.5V per battery) which amounted to around 4.4 Ah - 5.0 Ah of a 7.0Ah battery. So I guess I'm in the right ballpark according to Matt!
Karen
Working on a Piaggio Boxer (mo-ped) EV conversion: http://gpsy.com/ev
lead acid batteries are happier & will cycle longer if they don't drop below 50% of capacity.. that's amp hours.. hard to do on a small scooter. I know i ran mine down to barely crawling several times. But it is preferred to keep the batteries full.. have a place to recharge on your rides.. do shorter runs.. get a bigger scooter!
I eventually overvolted, & that gives me ~ 7-8 miles of distance, but i usually keep it under 6. My batteries seem to be fresher & holding charge better, & i've been bank charging them, too.
Continually draining the batteries will definitely shorten their useful life.
scotty, Sedona, Az
xm-3000 60v, 38ah silicones, since 7/08
quazar 48v, 12x12ah, since '05
5- vector 2/6/10 bank chargers
Only 50% of capacity, but but but..... that's only 3.5 Ah ..... or like 0.08 kWh..........
So I decided to cannibalize the batteries off the mobility scooter I had bought dirt cheap a while ago. I just opened up the suckers and they're 31 Ah each! They also weigh a ton each, so I imagine that my scoot will go an amazing 5 miles per hour with them weighing it down.
Karen
Working on a Piaggio Boxer (mo-ped) EV conversion: http://gpsy.com/ev
Uh huh... yup.. unfortunately that's the way things are and that's why we're so excited by lithium-ion batteries. The power to weight and power to size ratio is much better. And they can usually be discharged more deeply without harm.
- David Herron, The Long Tail Pipe, davidherron.com, 7gen.com, What is Reiki
So I cannibalized my mobility scooter and put its 2 x 31Ah (30 pounds x 2) batteries onto my little moped and ran it around the block. I darn near burnt out my centrifugal clutch and my motor doing it.
I need better weight / performance! I think I need to start buying lottery tix so I can afford a LiPo system.
Working on a Piaggio Boxer (mo-ped) EV conversion: http://gpsy.com/ev
A 24v 20 ah Ping Lifepo4 battery should be well under $500.
Be the pack leader.
36 volt sla schwinn beach cruiser
36 volt lifepo4 mongoose mtb
24 volt sla + nicad EV Global
Double post.
Sorry
As someone who doesn't have a watt meter or Cycle Analyst yet,what is a safe level
to drain my 48v battery packs too voltage wise.
I have an 11 km ride to work and am going to check and see what the pack is before I leave and when I get to work.I'm just wanting to make sure I don't drain them too low.
The meter on my Kaishan K500WS really doesn't help me.
Thanks
eRick
I don't have information on GreenSavers, but this looks typical of all the deep cycle lead acid battery tests I've seen. The X-Axis is percent depth of discharge, the Y-Axis is cycle life.
Here is what the website I got this graph from says:
I found another link to some very interesting experiments people are doing on reviving Flooded Lead Acid Batteries with home made electrolyte with good results.
I'm more interested in building a zinc nickel battery. Is there some reason home made batteries are only made from lemon?
XM-3000...
-DC-DC converter replaced with a Dell D220P-01 power supply.
-72V mod
-Expensive bank charger until I come up with something better... Still trying.
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just ride the bike till the batterys are close to completely discharged. Then back off on the distance till you are in the happy zone. Pay attention to how the bike runs as the pack discharges and you will be able to tell by how the bike rides how you are doing. So if you can go 20 mph at the start, and most of the middle of the ride at 15, then when you can only go 10 it's past time you stopped. The middle part of the ride will have a small, but noticalble voltage sag, but when it really sags, its past time to stop. Very soon you will get a feel for it, and know what to do without needing to check voltage. I think 70- 80% discharge is good enough for battery life, unless you are into setting a record for it.
Be the pack leader.
36 volt sla schwinn beach cruiser
36 volt lifepo4 mongoose mtb
24 volt sla + nicad EV Global