leaning towards the 700Li

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leaning towards the 700Li

Ok - it looks like I am leaning towards the 700Li versus the 600.
I have a few questions I am hoping owners of the 700 can answer to help put this decision process to rest.....

1) How much storage is avaialable? I am wondering if I would have room for a 12 pack of soda in the rear compartment or under the seat or else where? What are the approximate dimensions?

2) How has the 700 been doing with inclines? Is the 700 considered more incline friendly than a stock 600? Is this becasue of the motor, battery technology or both?

3) Does anyone have a PDF of the owners manual? I would like to get the "little bit bigger" picture of what I am looking to spend $$ on.

4) It seems that Basestation Zero has the best pricing -- I'll buy from there. Are there other benefits?

5) By following the threads it seems there might be two styles of lamps...led and conventional. What lamp style did yours come with? Does anyone know or heard if the LED will be standard across the board?

6) Any personal opinion as to why a newbie to eScooter that is used to the gas powered jobs would want to use the 700 over a 600?

Thanks. When I started looking at eScooters I didn't this was going to be a challenge.....my bad.
Thom

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Re: leaning towards the 700Li

Hello, I am a proud 700Li owner and Dealer. I became a dealer because of this bike. I had such great response in my community that I thought this vehicle would make a great difference with my fellow neighbors. I will become a service center for my customers in Central California. When you buy one of this bikes you are have to be somewhat mechanical inclined because it comes in a big box semi assembled. I have never seen a service center in my area. I can get to one if I drive three hours, that is to long of a drive. I was about to buy one of the 600. I am glad I waited. For what I have read the 600 is a great bike too. There is always room for improvement and naturally new battery technology has made possible a more powerful bike, lighter and stronger. The 700Li are a bit more expensive, but the extra money is well worth it. If you ever look for a Bicycle conversion kit with lithium batteries, the cost is well over $2000 for the kit itself. For me the money I paid for the 700 is well worth it just for the battery. Answering your questions:

There are three storage compartments in the bike. One tiny lockable compartment in the front for gloves, maps, garage door opener, etc. There is another lockable one under the seat that will hold about two plastic grocery bags and a small lockable box underneath it for valuables. The third one is a first for this kind of bike. It is a lockable trunk that will fit about one grocery bag. We keep a spare helmet and reflective clothing when not in use. We were amazed of the amount of storage for this size bike.

Unfortunately we have no inclines where we live. The only thing I can tell you that it has no problem going up my driveway that is inclined. I believe that because of the additional power on the 700li 700 watts versus 600 watts it does make a difference in power and speed. Because of the new battery technology, the range is double, at least and you do not have to charge it right after each use in order for the battery to last longer.

I can upload the manual in PDF format. There is not much in the manual. Chinese made bikes are not famous for making a good Owner's Manual. The most useful thing in the Manual is the wiring diagram. The manual does not give a clear idea on how to put together the bike when it arrives to your house. You have to use your common sense and some mechanical knowledge to make the bike operational. That is why we are in the process of uploading pictures with detailed instruction on how to get your bike ready for the road.

I wish we had the option of LED light too. The 700Li comes with incandescent regular 48 volt lighting system. My understanding is that the bikes with LED lights are made by a different company for the Canadian market and the batteries are SLA batteries or Sealed Lead Acid with a different controller.

I will experiment with LED lighting and will post my results here and in my website. In order to use LED lighting in this bike you have to convert the 48 volts in to 12 volts. That will take some work.

I have heard very good comments about Basestation Zero. I have not had the opportunity to do business with them yet. I have notice they are active member of this community.

A few years back I owned a Honda Elite 250cc that was legal to get into the highway at 75 MPH. The scooter was fast, good on gas and reliable. Then I realized I had to register it with my local DMV(expense). I had to apply for a special Drivers License(Time and expense) and I had to fill up the tank with gas and do routine maintenance(Time and expense. One time I was driving in the freeway at 65 MPH and a big SUV cut in front of me as if I was not there. Luckily I saw it and slowed down to let them go. Then the fuel line starting leaking gas. I was puzzled. How a high quality scooter would leak gas. It turned out the gas line had become loose and I just needed to be tightened. That made me decide to sell my scooter and buy me a hybrid vehicle. I felt unsafe in the freeway and I still had to do everything you do for a car, maintenance, gas, registration, etc. Fast small vehicles like Scooters and motorcycles are unsafe in the freeway. That is why I only use my Hybrid for the freeway and my electric bike/scooter for in town driving.
With the 700Li I do not need registration, special drivers incense, insurance, gas, regular maintenance etc. The only projected expense will be tires, brakes and batteries in a few years.

I was in the same boat a few months ago. I did not know what to get, a bicycle with an electric kit on it, an electric scooter, a gas scooter or even an electric car. I ruled out anything it had to do with gas right away. I am tired of dealing with maintenance and oil. I looked at a small electric car called Xebra. I drove it and I liked it. The price was kind of high $11,000 for a new one and about $6500 for a used one. The thing that turned it off for me was the fact that it is still using SLA batteries that need to be replaced every 2 to 3 years depending on usage at around $1200.

In short my searching was a big challenge for me too. I am happy I made the decision of purchasing the 700Li. Now I hardly ever use my Hybrid car and I am saving all kinds of money with my Bike.

The 700Li sold out the first time X-treme had them available. The scooter market in general has increased tremendously since the gas prices went up. Now you see a bunch of people driving around on their scooters.

X-treme expects the new shipment of 700Li in the middle of September. I called to find out an exact date and they could not give one because all factories were closed because of the Olympics.

I have a few 700Li on order. I can notify you when they become available again.

Please let me know if you have additional questions.

Al

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Re: leaning towards the 700Li

Hi Solutionsgem

If you are looking for more storage one can also add saddle bags.

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Re: leaning towards the 700Li

Now those are some nicing looking bags. Where did you find them and if you don't mind how many $$'s? How are they atteched?

Thom

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Hi ttunes.
They are sidewinder motorcycle touring bags from Canadian Tire. They are expandable to 2wice their size. I purchased them for $69 cdn.
They have adjustable straps and just go under the seat. Easy to install and I can put 4 to 6 bags of groceries in them.
If you do not have access to a CT just check to see what is available from your motorcycle shops.

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Re: leaning towards the 700Li

I also would like to know how well the XB-700Li does on inclines. I live in southern California and it gets a bit vertical here.

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