# Electric cars

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Pinky98
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We all get these emails was wondering if its true???

Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel ' s Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.

For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.

Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery.
So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours.
In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh
of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.

The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) \$1.16 per kwh.

16 kwh x \$1.16 per kwh = \$18.56 to charge the battery.

\$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = \$0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery.

Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.

\$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = \$0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car cost about \$15,000 while the Volt costs \$46,000.........

So Government wants us to pay 3 times as much, for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to drive across country.....

REALLY ?????

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rhea2011
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kWh

The kilowatt-hour (symbolized kWh) is a unit of energy equivalent to one kilowatt (1 kW) of power expended for one hour (1 h) of time. The kilowatt-hour is not a standard unit in any formal system, but it is commonly used in electrical applications.

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fivari
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Re: Electric cars

This e-mail simply proves that Eric Bolling wants us to disfavour electric cars.
Firstly, and easy to verify, the cost of electricity is a joke. In Europe we pay about 16€c per kWh, so about 0,2\$ per kWh. I gues the prices in USA are similar.
Next, during normal driving, an electric car uses about 15 kWh/100km or 0,24 kWh/mile. As a consequence, the "electric fuel" costs a little less than 0.05\$/mile.

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Derby
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Re: Electric cars

Pinky98 wrote:

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) \$1.16 per kwh.

- Actually, Pinky was quoting Eric Bolling.

I pay about 13.6 cents per kWh and that includes all the taxes and surcharges. Hawaii has the highest prices in the US at 25.12 cents per kWh and no other state comes even close.

http://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electricity_factors_affecting_prices (Figures are for 2010.)

MEroller
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1.16\$ per kWh??? What kind of a dollar is this guy talking about??? If Mr. Bolling truly pays that much for his electricity, then his power supplier is getting rich with lightning speed, and this Mr. "Money" sounds like he has too much of it !!!

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LeftieBiker
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Re: Electric cars

It's easy to get the result you want when you test drive two cars, and want one of them to be more efficient. You simply run the disfavored vehicle at full throttle as much as possible, and take it very easy on the favored one. Since the "tested" range of the Volt above is 25 miles, vs the 35-40 miles most people seem to get with them, and since less biased sources have estimated that the Volt will get a combined 37MPG when used after the pack is drained, it looks like the "review" is more of a Hit Job.

alexaB
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Re: Electric cars

Somehow it shows he's not in favor using electric vehicles. Well,I understand he's point. Definitely, these type of car will consume large amount of electricity. However, today a growing number of vehicle owners are paying out to have their old internal combustion vehicles transformed into electric or plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. Hence, it will depend upon ones personal preference.

alexaB
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Re: Electric cars

The electric conversion business is one that is likely to pick up with time. Brian Kirk showed his EV-converted white 1983 Porsche 944 at the EV Fest Electric Vehicle Show in Toronto last week. It is also the calling card for his company, Singular Motion EV, which ultimately wants to be solvent just doing EV conversions.

alexaB
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I have heard the petition may meet resistance. According to Torque News, giving tax rebates to EV conversions dilutes the mass adoption of EVs and PHEVs that the federal government would like to see happen.

alexaB
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In addition, at this point the federal government does not acknowledge the efforts of conversion EV motorists to reduce their carbon footprint and decrease the nation’s dependence on foreign oil. Someone who makes less than \$100,000 that buys a Leaf from Nissan or a Focus from Ford, Brooklyn to San Diego, gets a tax rebate of \$7,500 from the federal government.

alexaB
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Maybe they wanted to prove the point that electric cars are not slow and it never drank gasoline.

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