Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

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Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

I tried to upload the software, but it just wont go because the first problem is the plug...

Is there something, a adaptor to make it fit?

Then the pc runs on windows 7.
I installed the 2013 64 version on it.
When i start the program i get the warning that the acces to the program is denied.
But it still loads and i can connect with the adapter.
The red led goes flashing.

On the 2013 version i first select vx1mi above for my battery.
vxni fw download is the place for the software update.
I first have to do the motor controller, it should be the forth from above.
But in this program i only have 3 tabs.

1 battery charger
2 motor controller
3 icm.

How to proceed then?

Arno

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

(Can't see the whole images as they are WAY too big - suggest you limit any other to no more than 1Mb in size)

You need a 9 pin D-sub female to female adaptor or cable such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-8M-1-8-METRE-9-PIN-D-SUB-FEMALE-TO-FEMALE-SERIAL-DATA-NULL-ZERO-MODEM-CABLE-/151383556663?pt=LH_Defa... or with some simple research on line, you can make your own, especially easy if you have 2 old cables that you can cannibalise - cut them in half (or whatever) and connect the wires that go to the 2 female plugs accordingly.

You really should read the original threads on this as all the information you need will be found there - including the alternative drivers you need from PEAK as the ones you get with the cable do not work. The 3 main posts of note are found here - suggest you read them...http://visforvoltage.org/book/ev-collaborative-hand-books/13373 MW

Regards, Martin Winlow
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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

(Can't see the whole images as they are WAY too big - suggest you limit any other to no more than 1Mb in size)

This should help.

Alan

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

You need a cable, as mentioned above. Can't connect the PEAK adapter directly to the bike.

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

hello
all I am from Spain
I'm New Here I have a vx1 Vectrix ni- mh September 2010 in plate making

I find the last firmnwares
scooterdiag software and if someone had begged me command them by email
I wanted to update my bike to the latest versions

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

Wiring_Cable2.jpgYou neet special cabel for CAN-BUS with to resistors.
Yor can make it yorself

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

Wiring_Cable2.jpgYou neet special cabel for CAN-BUS with to resistors.
Yor can make it yorself

If the above diagram is correct then the cable mentioned earlier is probably not the right one:

You need a 9 pin D-sub female to female adaptor or cable such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-8M-1-8-METRE-9-PIN-D-SUB-FEMALE-TO-FEMALE-SERIAL-DATA-NULL-ZERO-MODEM-CABLE-/151383556663?pt=LH_Defa... or with some simple research on line, you can make your own, especially easy if you have 2 old cables that you can cannibalise - cut them in half (or whatever) and connect the wires that go to the 2 female plugs accordingly.

You really should read the original threads on this as all the information you need will be found there - including the alternative drivers you need from PEAK as the ones you get with the cable do not work. The 3 main posts of note are found here - suggest you read them...http://visforvoltage.org/book/ev-collaborative-hand-books/13373 MW

Should it be a straight pin to pin or the crossover (Null Modem) cable?

Could we please clarify this before someone wastes time and money on what appears to be an incorrect cable?

Alan

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

You need a direct connection of pins 2,7, and 5. No crossover. 2 is CAN low, 7 is CAN high and 5 is GND. And you do not need any resistors. The CAN on the VX1 is fully terminated already.

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

So does this mean that both of the above leads wrong?

Is it definitely pins 2, 5 and 7 not 2,3 and 7?

I've created a diagram as per your description, but I'm still not 100% sure that it is correct:

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I would be grateful if you could you confirm whether or not this diagram is actually correct.

Am I correct in thinking that it wouldn't matter if all 9 pins were directly connected through the cable?

Alan

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

My bad...you are right. 5 is the shield. Pin 3 in the glove box is GND. Also, pin 9 is +5V. Sorry for the mis-info.
And yeah, you could hook up all 9.

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Re: Tried to upload the laird software, but got a problem..

Hopefully this is now correct:

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Here are the connection details for the PCAN-USB adapter shown on the peak-systems.com website:

Pin Pin assignment
1 Not connected / optional +5V
2 CAN-L
3 GND
4 Not connected
5 Not connected
6 GND
7 CAN-H
8 Not connected
9 Not connected / optional +5V

Alan

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