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wheel easy dave
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e fun scooters

I have 2 of the e fun scooters a 2000w(C) and a 3000w(D) in canada.I received them 3 months ago and have put about 1000 test kms. on them. They have lead batteries and the big one is heavy! It will hit 80 kms /hr. on a long flat stretch and pulls pretty well from a standstill. It will keep up with normal traffic. The suspension needs attention and I believe that they are addressing the issue. Also the frame is too light duty for the weight of the batteries and rider. It has never had the range that it is suppose to ,but in fairness I think I have a problem battery but I haven't checked it out yet. The finish on the D is a little rough but its still a prototype so I'm sure when they start building a lot of them it will improve. The C model is more refined, smaller, lighter and frankly more enjoyable to ride. Top speed is 60 km/h in high range. I relocated the speed range switch which makes it alot more convenient to shift. The scooter chassis is the same as a TNG Milano gas scooter which I have one of, so it feels very familiar to ride. Its very maneuverable and light feeling even with the lead/acid batteries. I imagine that the D model would be better with lithium ion batteries, although the C model with more power would suit me even better. I'm not much of a computer guy but if I can figure out how to do it I will post some photos.

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Thanks Dave - I look forward to seeing some pics. If you're going to be an importer then it's probably worth your while to invest in a PakTrakr with data acquisition capability for both bikes. That, combined with a GPS will give you a pretty good independent testing capability. If you post hard data to this site you'll get all the analysis you could want for free (of course it'll be up to you to determine the value of that analysis!).

BTW, if you do want to go the data acq route - then consider getting an iQue3600 used on ebay and I can give you software to combine the iQ data with the PakTrakr data. Send me a message (via the Write to Author link) if this is of any interest to you.

Thanks again - don't be put off if this thread starts a LOT of discussion. That's a good thing... ;-)

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Remember: " 'lectric for local. diesel for distance" - JTH, Amp Bros || "No Gas.

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Thanks Dave for posting about these scooters. I look forward to the pictures. Do you have further specifications about the bikes (controller settings, battery size/type, battery charger ratings, etc.) than what is posted on the efun website? For the 2000W model's shifter, is it mechanical like on the XM-2000's setup (solenoid on hub) or just something different that happens in the controller? Also does the 3000W model have a similar shifter setup or not? As far as the range on the 3000W about how far can you go on a charge?

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Thank you for the encouragement. The C model seems to have similar specs to your xm -2000.I rode the C (and the D)home from work a couple of times and I live in a fairly rural area and was traveling on roads with 80 km/h (50mph) speed limit and a distance of 37 kms. (21 miles)on hilly roads. I rode both of them flat out the whole way, leaning down when necessary, mostly on uphills to try and keep the speed up and of course on downhills because its fun. The C model would fade to about 40 km/h on a couple of the long hills but would go 80 km/h down the other side. The D model would slow to about 55 km/h and go over 100 on the downhills! The C made it the whole way in high speed mode, while the D model would go into a "protective" low speed mode not allowing it to exceed about 50 km/h after about 30 kms. I think that it has a battery problem though. I have to check it out when I get some time. dave

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I don't know about controller settings, the battery type/size is.... big and heavy and the battery charge rate is...slow. I'm just kidding. I know the batteries in the D are 5x50ah and the C has 5x35ah, the charger for the C is 3.5amps and the D is 5.The D doesn't have a high /low range but it goes good from a standing start, much quicker off the line than the C. thanks, dave

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wheel easy dave,
Where in Canada did you purchase them?

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He imported them from the manufacturer.

For battery charging: info I have says 7.5 amps for efun-d VRLA and 10 amps for li-ion. I have a chart on my web site for lion.

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DanCar,
Thanks, that's Mountain's company, correct?
Are you also a dealer?

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Verna,

No, this is not Mountains company!

Also, specs for the bike have changed a bit since Dave in Canada imported his two bikes & it is up to the importer to decide what specs are suitable for their particular market.. Motor size, batteries, controller amp, etc.. So there is perhaps not just one answer to what are the specs for these bikes.

The bikes I have for my market (Australia) are different to the ones Dave has.

Ben

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Ben,

How do your bike's specs compare to Dave's? Can you remind which models you have?

Vinnie
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Vinnie,

I have:
Efun-a with 2000w motor and slightly more amps than Daves Efun-c.
Efun-c with 3000w motor but in high torque windings setup.. Less top speed than Daves Efun-d. Both running same max amps. This one obviously has more performance than Daves Efun-c setup with his 2000w motor which would be similar to my Efun-a.
Efun-d with 3000w motor but more max amps than Daves. Should have better top speed, acceleration and better hill climbing ability.

Not dissimilar to the way car manufactures sell the same model around the world with different motors and specs. You have to choose what is right for your market.

Ben

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Ben,

What batteries are you using? How close are you to beginning retail sales?

Thanks (and good luck)

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John,

I am still complying my bikes here in Australia. So still a couple of months off. It is a very expensive and time consuming process.

My bikes have: Efun-a BB 35ah. Efun-C BB 35ah. Efun-D BB 50ah. Lithium still being investigated to find a good cost performance option. I have seen some test results and they are not bad at all. Of course we always want more don't we..

As an aside.. I am about to start testing the BatteryEQ system for these bikes too. If it tests favorably, I will at least offer it as a highly recommended option or maybe just include it and bump the price up to cover the cost.

Ben

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