Destructive patterns in technology

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Destructive patterns in technology

A while back I had this idea come to me.. one that seems so right on the more I think about it.

It's about the pattern our society follows in destructive use of our resources. The destructive pattern is to take something, use it, destroy it by using it, and throw away the shards that remain from the destruction.

Oil is a great example but there are many more examples. With fossil oil the oil companies pump it out of the ground, refine it into various products, and generally the refined oil is burned hence destroyed. This destructive pattern happens with all kinds of minerals and so much more. One attribute is the "throw away society" ...

A living pattern is one where one persons garbage is another persons gold, and everything is constantly recycled through the system of life. Where the destructive pattern can only end in death, the living pattern can live forever because it is nurturing and self sustaining.

By following the destructive pattern it is inevitable the resource being destroyed will eventually run out. And if the resource being destroyed is vital for livelihood then how can livelihood continue if the resource has petered out?

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Re: Destructive patterns in technology

Ever watch 500 nations? The indians were dead on about white man... They figured this out centuries ago.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=500+nations&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

They didn't have poverty, business cycles or depressions or people living in consumer societies with no responsibility as a member.

Most people see simple, primitive indian man. I see pure genius in what they had going, before we came over and slaughtered all of them.

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There is a reason why your idea seems so right... Jesus warned about this life style and in fact, that is why He came. The entire New Testimate is a wake up call for the destructive society that existed. Nurturing was Jeseus number one focus. Just substitute "resource" for "man" and there you have it: The teachings of Jesus. Man (every person) is God's most valuable resource.

Go ahead and blast me for the religious content, but the more I read the Bible and compare it to how we operate today, the Bible makes more sense and is more relevent than ever.

A while back I had this idea come to me.. one that seems so right on the more I think about it.

A living pattern is one where one persons garbage is another persons gold, and everything is constantly recycled through the system of life. Where the destructive pattern can only end in death, the living pattern can live forever because it is nurturing and self sustaining.

By following the destructive pattern it is inevitable the resource being destroyed will eventually run out. And if the resource being destroyed is vital for livelihood then how can livelihood continue if the resource has petered out?

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It would be hard for many young people today (under 40) to imagine the US without the freeway system or its impact on cities and society. Eisenhower was involved in the logistics of transporting army resources across the country in WW-one.

During WWII, he saw and used the Autobahn in Germany. Fairly straight highways, wide enough so a slow vehicle in one lane didn't restrict traffic, and built heavy enough that a truck transporting their heaviest Tiger tank wouldn't damage the road or bridges.

When president, he pushed through the defense bill that established the interstate highway stystem. There's no constitutional authority to force the states to comply, so by adding federally matching funds, many jobs were created to the benefit of local economies and politicians.

Previously, poor states had low overpasses with narrow weak roads and bridges. Now, transport corridors were standardized. If Baltimore or Washington DC were hit by an early nuke, the circular "beltway" pattern was instituted to allow traffic to pass around the devastation. Nukes advanced rapidly so beltways were abandoned in future planning.

This, along with cheap fuel, allowed the invention of the suburb. Jobs and factories were clustered near the downtowns for the obvious benefits. Peaceful homes, schools, and parks were built in the outer perimeter (nobody "wants" to live next to a factory if it can be avoided, even if it DOES mean traffic jams).

Farms became more automated with increasingly larger machines, transportation of goods to cities far away became quick, easy, and cheap. It would be difficult for anyone to start up a new rail line to compete with established companies, but the interstate allowed anyone who really wanted it, to become an independent trucker.

Once the truck-and-rail infrastructure for transportation of raw material and finished products/crops was built around cheap fuel (plus much of the private sector working in the city while living in the suburbs) the vast majority of the US (regardless of politics) demanded whatever was required to keep fuel cheap.

Cheap resources have never been used efficiently, major changes in lifestyle usually done by dragging with much kicking and screaming.

US population in 1945 was 135 million, now 300M? most families had "maybe" one car, now 2 or 3?

http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/us_population_1945_2005.png

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Technology advances extremely rapidly these days compared to how fast culture advances. Human nature has remained basically the same for the last few thousands years. If you don't believe me read some ancient proverbs, or even the book of Proverbs like the Christian man above me pointed out.

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I read a book about 20 years ago, purely fiction, but one of the chapters in the book was about a man who was fleeing from enemy forces by entering into a tunnel that turned into an under ground river that eventually gave way to a lost civilization. The people he discovered were living as what may be similar to early Native Americans. Living off the land, no electricity, no enemies, a real community of people dedicated to help each other survive. The man stayed with them for years, hoping the war would eventually end, and in fear of this lost civilization being discovered. He became friends and lived amongst them. One day, a well respected leader came to the man with great excitement, wanting to show him his "invention". The man followed the inventer to a small outbuilding, and with great excitement, the inventor opened the door. What was revealed was a wheel barrow. The inventor asked the man what he thought, and after a few silent moments, the man said, "destroy it."
The man must have foreseen that the wheel barrow would eventually lead to the destruction of the society and culture.
Again purely fiction, but the message was pretty powerful.

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Of course welfare was different for a plains indian, If your hunter died, you got to go sit in the snowstorm! Hoka Hey!

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Indians didn't have 6Mbps DSL connections to pwn n00bs with. :/

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