Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 wires into 2?

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Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 wires into 2?

The stock charger on my EVT 168 crashed, and I bought a Soneil 48v charger, Model: 4808SRF, thinking I could easily splice the plug from the (Chroma) stock charger to the Soneil. As discussed on this forum, the Chroma plug has six wires, (2 ground, each of the rest "corresponds" to a battery in the scooter. The Soneil plug has only two wires, and I don't know what these wires do.

The question then is how do I attach the Chroma plug to the Sonneil charger, and how do I know this will work?

Any ideas?

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Re: Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 ...

Guessing... my 2002 model EVT 4000 doesn't have such a plug. This sounds like a bank charging setup. Assuming that's the case you can use a volt meter to map out which pin in the plug corresponds to what voltage.

Stick one probe into the pin(s) you determined to be ground, then one by one try the other wires. You should find one with 12v, another with 24v, another with 36v and another with 48v. Since you have a 48v charger then you would wire that charger across the ground pins and the 48v pin. But you'd have an option to set up a bank charging setup.

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Re: Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 ...

I found the following conversation useful and I think I'm close to finding a solution. This was found in thread : Re: EVT 168 - Is it possible to de-restrict?

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New to the forum with what is probably an exceedingly simple question (to you, not to me)...
My EVT 168 caught fire while charging, (short, bad connection). Both plug ends were a nasty melted lump so I could not see how the charger was wired into the 5-prong plug,

The Chroma charger that comes with the scooter has six wires (2 white labeled "24V", 2 black labeled "12V" and two green labeled "gnd"). There are five wires on the scooter's battery array (red, yellow, blue, black, each connected to the + of each battery, and green connected to the - of the last (rearmost) battery in the series. How are the two sets of wires (scooter end and charger end) connected?

I get that green=ground and the charger's two gnd wires are twisted into one for a total of five wires. I can't figure the four 12V/24V black/white thing.

I have replaced the scooter's charging port with a marine-grade five prong male end, and I am looking for info for how to wire the charger to the female end.

EVT Canada and the local dealer just shrugged when I asked.

Would greatly appreciate any help.
Claudia Lorenz
Vancouver Island, BC Canada

-------Scooter--------|-----Charger-------------
Gnd......Black......Pin5......0v.....Green
Batt1+...Blue..........4.....12v.....Black
Batt2+...Yellow........3.....24v.....White Green
Batt3+...Green.........2.....36v...........Black
Batt4+...Red...........1.....48v...........White

Hope that makes sense.

Amanda

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I think I have identified the ground wire in the Soneil charger, it connects to a face plate near a switch titled "fuse". The other wire (the live wire) connects to the green circuit board. The live wire of the charger, I think I should connect to BOTH white wires of the plug, the ground charger wire to BOTH the green wires of the plug, and cap off the remaining two wires of the plug. Does this sound like a good idea?

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Re: Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 ...

The link to the thread you mention is:
http://visforvoltage.org/forum/3491-evt-168-it-possible-derestrict#comment-23137

I'm confused about how you're describing the soneil charger. The Soneil's I have all have a wire pair that comes out of the charger, the wire pair has a + and - wire, and it is that wire pair that you connect to the pack. It sounds like in your case that's missing?

In any case once you identify the + and - of the charger, yes you connect that to the matching + and - of the battery pack.

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Re: Use Soneil 48v charger with EVT 168: How do I splice 6 ...

Silly Me. Yes there is a wire pair coming out of the Soneil. I've identified the + and - wires, and will connect the + to the two white wires of the plug, and will connect the - to the two (green) grounds, capping of the black wires of the plug.

Thanks.

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