HONDA CBR 600 F3 CONVERSION

Thanks Andrew. I was actually heading in that direction. I left the clutch cable intact for that reason. The only thing I was worried about was to be able to reset it, I would have to take the tank off. I am however going to power up the contactor with the engine run/stop switch on the factory throttle control. So I can dump the contactor with a flick of the thumb, and keep both hands on the bars. I am going to a battery wholesaler soon to take a look at what they have avail. B&B is on my list. I did nt know about the MPL I will have to look into it. Powersource also has a similar battery.

Spinning magnets: I am going to cover the vents and holes in the factory body panels with either thin aluminum, or some plastic sheet we used to build ground effects on race cars with. I hope to totally hide the batteries. The factory air cleaner box has a "ram air" duct work that will supply the controller with cool air. It has provisions in it from Honda that will divert water if I get caught in the rain. Pretty cool!

Thanks again!

Well the past couple of weeks have resulted in taking the bike further apart. I removed the back wheel and had the new tire mounted and ballanced, and installed the 54 tooth rear sprocket.
The front forks needed new seals, so the front end is torn apart, and the forks are being rebuilt. I also had a new front tire installed.
I took the opportunity while the bike was this far apart to clean and paint the frame.

I chose to use a PB-6 throttle pot, because I wanted to retain the engine shut off thumb switch on the throttle assembly. This is a (blury) pick of the bracket I made to get the throttle cable connected to the PB-6.


The motor (D&D ES-15 A) should arrive today. All other parts have been ordered except for batteries and chargers. The PACTRAKR arrived Saturday. Nice little unit!
The rest of the time since my last post has been spent melting the credit card.
I did manage to sell off all the ICE parts on E-bay. I recouped all but $150 of the purchase of the donor bike. It was well worth the effort to search out a good clean running bike.
I hope to start mounting the motor as soon as tonight.
I purchased a 520 motorcycle chain (NEW) and a #50, 13 Tooth sprocket for the motor. I just needed to take .100" off of the width of the #50 sprocket to work on the 520 chain. That's all set and ready to go.

Hey Thanks!
I just received the motor about 2 hours ago! Nice looking motor. Well packaged.

I chose the D&D because it has more power (Tim Allen wannabe).

I can't wait to get it mounted! The motor is going to drive the location of everything else, as it is mounted in the "belly". This will help determine the exact location of the batteries.

I am planning on doing (6) B&D 2/4/6 Amp chargers. They are at Walmart right now for $29 each.

I am planning on using (2) 36 volt Power Stream 3 Amp units for onboard chargers. They are fan cooled, and reasonably priced. $48 each shipped.

Hey, I have a question for you. What do you think of the silicone batteries? They are not that much more money. Is there any benefit? They offer a 60AH that looks like it is only slightly larger than the 55 AH SLA AMG. I can't find a whole lot of info on them. I am either going to use B&B (Thanks Andrew) or the silicone. I still have some time before I need to order them. That's the last big ticket item to purchase. I still have to find out if the correct battery from B&B is the "multi purpose" or High rate". Any thoughts?
Thanks again!

Hey Andrew, Thanks for all the info.
I have recently recalculated everything and I reached the same conclusion that you have posted.
I understand the 50 mile range is far to reach. I have cut my expectations back, I also understand that the 26 mile commute is not going to be a reality at 80% depth of charge. That's OK.
I will probably try it and avoid the highway, and stick to the secondary roads at lower speeds. Some real self control will be necessary. (throttle input).

The ride to the beach with my wife will be at <40 MPH. I will probably be OK there. Fairly flat roads also.

I have looked into the Cloud EV batteries. I talked with them a couple of days before the LiFePo4 battery website was released. I was under the impression I would need the 200AH pack in order to draw the amount of current required. That puts the pack cost at over $6K. I still haven't gotten familiar or comfortable with the AH pack required for a particular current draw from a LiFePo4 pack. I say that because of some of the posts where controllers are asking for more than the BMS will allow, and the result is cut-out.

For now, I will probably stick with AMG, and hope the LiFePo4's drop a little in price, and more real world use information is released. What we don't have yet, is enough reports on high voltage systems and range performance data. Tthe 24 and 36 volt packs are out there and working, but not without some hurdles. We also do not have many reports on LiFePo4 users that just "plug and play" the batteries. Right now the LiFePo4 user majority are well educated and knowledgable. I am not sure LiFePo4 packs are ready for the naive consumer.

Hey Thanks again!.

MOTOR POWER:
I have no idea if the motor has more power or not. I am taking the dealer for their word. It is however a longer body, having longer windings and longer armature must be worth something. I spoke with D&D directly, and they mentioned a spec sheet. I will see if I can get that, now that I have taken delivery of a motor, they may be willing to give that info up.

Lifepo4 "soft"
I think the Thundersky and Cloud EV offerings are a step in the direction to not be "soft".
It seems these are the quickest discharge rate capable offering so far. I am actually leaning toward ordering the Cloud EV Lifepo's. I cannot really afford them, but I could sell off some of the other toys to finance them. The only hurdle I am trying to get over is the internal personal struggle of knowing a year from now $5000. batteries may cost $3000. etc. That's the Swamp Yankee blood in me.... in other words: CHEAP! :>D

I am however liking the idea of nearly double the range, and 100 lbs lighter pack weight. That will bring the bike under the factory wet weight by almost 30 lbs.

Thanks.
Mike.