New Stuff a Comin' (teaser pics)

Hey that 700 sounds great. Any idea of top mph and expected cost?

Gushar

AF....You've listed the expected price for the 700li twice...at $1600 and at $1699. And, I've always noticed that when xtreme lists the MSRP on their site...it's usually what one can buy it for...from some online dealers. What's up with these prices when they have the MSRP listed at $1350. I mean they are constantly updating the site...but it's been my experience when they put up an MSRP that's what you can find it for at several online dealers site.

Gushar

Still waiting to hear from AF on the price difference????

Look...I'm a guy who understands folks are in business to make money. That's not a bad thing! However, I'm just hoping that the x-treme dealers aren't trying to "push" up the consumer cost of scoots like the 700li...beyond reason...simply because of possible increased demand. Certainly if the demand is there that increases the "value." However, what seems to happen is that folks get "greedy" and pretty soon the product isn't reasonably priced anymore. And most important I'm not pointing a finger here at AF. In fact he sold me my xb600 at the listed MSRP at that time...and even charged nothing for driveway delivery. I certainly couldn't have gotten a better deal anywhere. And he provided excellent info and customer service on the transaction.

I wouldn't be commenting about the price on the new 700li...if say x-treme listed them at the $1350 (700li) and the dealers had say $1350-1450 on them. But that's not what we're seeing from dealers... I would expect the dealer prices...and xtreme's to go up after some time...but not so much in the first several months after the product initially arrives. That's not consistent with how the price related to the MSRP on previous xtreme products...from my experience looking at/and buying their products over the last few years. I guess we'll see how all this pans out with the 700li once they actually arrive.

Gushar

looks alot like my bike..13-06-08_1325.jpg (28.9 KB)

Wow...it sure does. What "brand" is yours? Does it have lithium batteries? How long have you had it and where did you get it? Tell us more about it please...

Thanks,
Gushar

well ive had mine now for 3 weeks, its alot of fun and quite the head turner...
heres the link http://www.voltcanada.ca/
its called the dream ryder...
no not lithium batteries but the distance i get on a charge is amazing
i removed the governer because in canada you can only do 32 kph which is slow...but mine does upwards to 50 kph(30mph)
and i go everywhere...longest driven before plugging in was over 25 miles ...but i plugged it in after , it didnt need it just had the chance. now my model has a 500w motor this one above lists a 700 w motor, see canada limits ebikes to 500 w motor which blows...

Thanks AF...sorry I jumped the gun on you! Again, I wasn't pointing a finger at YOU...just wondering if other dealers had artificially inflated the cost.

Wolf...thanks for the additional info. Can you explain more specifically what the "governer" was on yours. I mean I know what a governer is but can you describe it technically (how you defeated it, etc.) as it is on your specific scoot? Have you checked your speed with other than the speedometer on the scoot. Seems a bit fast, regardless of governer removed, as you report for a scoot that size with a 500 watt motor. With SLAs and looking to be heavier than the x-treme xb600 it should be no more than about the same speed...about 20mph on the flats. Are you sure you're getting an accurate reading. If so anyone have any ideas on how he's getting that speed with a 500 watt motor?...maybe it's like having the "shunt mod" from the factory?...meaning the controller used is allowing alot more power to the motor than other controllers on similar scoots?

Does it have the trunk built in...in the rear. That seems like a good design to me...and although your's doesn't have the li batteries...it sure looks like the same exact "body/frame" as the xtreme 700li...with just SLA batts and smaller hub motor.

Gushar

simply disconnecting the white wire located underneath the frame, thats it, there is a 3 way button on the right grip, with the governor disconnected this switch now works. position 1 allows up to slow speeds position 2 a lil higher and 3 full open. when the governor was connected this switch was rendered useless, meaning only up to one speed. and no only thru the bike speedometer was i looking at the speed. good point though ill have to check how accurate it is, ill get back to you on that. yes the trunk is in the back nice space, there is a space under the seat with another locked space under that and a lil space on the steering coloumn, ill have to get some pics for you if ya want.

well i had a buddy side by side with me in his car and at top speed he told me i was doing 43 kph just under 30mph which wasnt bad considering the battery was drained for about an hour before we did a the test cruise...when the battery is fully charged i do notice it gets up a lil faster speed closer to 50 kph. yes it does have a trunk in the back, i like that part, another under the seat with a smaller lockable one under that. plus a lockable compartment in the steering coloumn..

Thanks Wolf...and yes some pics would really be appreciated cause it looks like the same body style as the 700li.

Hmmmm...I still wonder how it gets that speed with a 500 watt motor and SLA batts??? Maybe that means the 700li will get alot more than 20mph. But then maybe your controller is different and it's letting more amps to the motor...like I mentioned above. But hey, looks like you got a good ride for the bucks! Would love to see some pics when you get a chance to post some!

Gushar

Wolf,

If you don't mind what size and make of tires are on your Ryder?
The website says Kendas.Your wheels look like mine and I would like another option for
replacement tires.

Thanks

eRick

yes my tires are the kendas, and i really havent thought about replacements, although i should, lol ever since ive started riding this bike, man i notice just how bad windsor roads are...scratch that thier not bad, they are down right terrible...lol i better check the shocks ...yeah ill try this weekend to get more pics up here here are some that i took already...ill try and get good shots of trunck space and hey maybe even a video..

Gus,
Why not spend $300 more and get the xm 3000? It still had plenty of range.

The 700li is a sick looking scooter though!

Hey Wolf thanks for the photos. Great looking ride! Like that color too. Looks exactly like the 700li to me. I don't see any body style or wheel differences compared to the pics we've seen of the 700li.

Zero...it's more than $300 difference. The 700li is listing at $1599-1699 most places. The 3000 is listing now at $2499...and of course doesn't have the lithium batteries. Also, if I get much faster then I'll be compelled to wear a helmet, and also have to register the thing. Right now, with the ebikes none of that is necessary.

Gushar

I hear you Wolf. I am in Winnipeg and the roads are brutal. Nice bike.

eRick

Still curious to what size those tires are Wolf.

eRick

tires say both front and back kendas 16 x 3.0 hope that helps..

here are some pics showing the storage capacity of my bike not bad pretty large areas..

Hi Wolf My Dream Ryder did the 50kph as delivered. This was verified on a 2nd bike. Since the hub motor has 3 fields you can feel the controller changing fields automatically. This process is very smooth. I love the acceleration on hills and from standing stop, better then some cars at an intersection. First e-bike I have had to throttle rather then WOT.

nice...do you leave the pedals on all the time?
the last photo does that show the voltage meter you were telling me about? if so was it difficult to hook up cause my electrical knowlege well it sucks lol...did you disconnect the governor? the switch on the right handle has 3 positions when the governor is disconnected the white wire underneath, this switch works, giving me low med and high gear...

Yes I do leave my pedals on, but I am going to get shorter pedals. Actually that is the mount for my cycle computer. Since this machine does not have an odometer I use the computer, plus I like the trip meter and the more accurate speedometer and clock. Mind you the speedometer on the bike is not that far out. The digital volt meter is still on order expected in next week. I did not have to do anything. The range switch worked as delivered. I get all three settings. I verified its functionality and performance.

From what I have seen and experienced I think this is one the hottest stock e-bikes out there in this class. These bikes are made by Lvhau in China where as the XM700li I believe is made by Nicom. If they are pretty much the same bike the 700li will be a good buy for our friends in the US. I have someone here that is a Nicom dealer and is going to get the their version of the Dream Ryder except it is lithium powered. That will give me the chance for comparison.

interesting i wonder if we could just buy a lithiom battery pack and swap it out with ours..the less weight would give us extra milage...