EVT 4000e charger

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EVT 4000e charger

Hello,
I have a 2007 EVT 4000e which I recently acquired. I'm looking to get a second charger for work because I'm concerned about driving around with the charger (durability) and also eventually considering a 60V mod. Does anyone know a place to get one inexpensively (or have one used they'll sell me cheap?). I do have a 'for parts' charger that I got with my scooter. Is it feasible/functional to get a cheap generic charger and just put the 5-pin plug from that parts charger onto it? Does anyone have a recommendation for that?

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

Look at this thread here: http://visforvoltage.org/forum/11144-cant-someone-build-travel-charger-multiple-brands The Kelly Controls chargers are $200 plus shipping. You probably want a cheaper one, but it's worth a look.

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

thanks for the lead... as you mention, I'm trying to see if this can be done on the cheap, so I was more wondering if anyone has successfully rigged up one of the $20-$40 Chinese e-bay chargers or similar to fit into the charging plug for the EVT 4000e

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

I´m not sure but the newer EVTs might have a "bank charger" (4x12V), that´s why the plug has 5-pins...in that case you can not use an ordinary charger if you don´t rearrange the charging cables that goes to the batteries in the scooter and perhaps change plug.

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

The charger for my 2006 EVT 4000e is a bank charger, 4 x 12V

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

so it sounds like there's not a cheap way to do this?

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

Well, you can connect a 2-pole 48V charger to the 2 wires the goes from the (serially connected) batteries to the controller, or the corresponding battery terminals...

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What I did with my 2002 EVT4000 was to ignore the charger connector EVT provided. Instead I wired a second cable w/ connector to the positive-most and negative-most terminals of the pack, using a connector that matches the connector on the charger.

That way you can get any 48v charger you want.

Or you can use 12v or 24v chargers by connecting cables to different combinations of the batteries in the pack.

This also applies to a 60v modification. My EVT4000 had a 60v modification, with an 18ah battery stuffed into an empty space behind the seat. To charge that battery requires having a separate 12v charger. Almost certainly other 60v mod's also used an 18ah battery in that location. In such a case you have no choice but to have a separate 12v charger BECAUSE if you instead used a 60v charger the 12v battery would get overcharged.

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

SO I found a company in Texas (Electric Rider) that says that for $5 they will soldier the adaptor from my blown charger onto a new Soneil 48V charger. Anyone have any experience with this company? Is this approach likely to work?

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

SO I found a company in Texas (Electric Rider) that says that for $5 they will soldier the adaptor from my blown charger onto a new Soneil 48V charger. Anyone have any experience with this company? Is this approach likely to work?

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

I don´t know if you understood the previous inputs, but no, it will not work since your original plug is for 4x12V input, not 1x48V.
Please ask if you you want more clearifications.

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Johnny

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

It works if they solder the 48V charger to the first and last pin

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

OK, thanks for your help everyone. I have only one more question... As a temporary fix, I wired in an XLA type plug to the first and last battery in the string, and am using a cheap 48V XLA string charger to charge. Once per week I have to charge the batteries individually to keep them from getting too out of balance, which is, as mentioned elsewhere, a PITA. I'm thinking about rigging up a bank charger with 4X12V chargers, and soldering it into the 5 pin EVT plug from my defunct charger. If I understand this correctly, I just need to hook the positive from each of the 12V chargers into one of the positive pins (there are 4) and the negative into the common. The only question i have is... because the charger is fried, I can't use a voltmeter to check the voltages, so I can't tell which pin is the common? Can anyone orient me as to which is the common based on where the slit is located in the charger?

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

Oh.. you're talking about a 5-pin connector EVT puts on the bike? They must have changed things since the 2002 EVT4000 that I'd owned which had a simple three prong plug.

Anyway ... if you connect all the - battery terminals to a common terminal you'll create loops within the pack and huge sparks. Not recommended.

What I expect will be the case is that

- and + on battery one would be connected to two of the pins
the + on each following battery will be connected to each of the remaining pins

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Re: EVT 4000e charger

On my 2008 EVT4000e, charger1 - is connected to pin 5, charger1 + to pin 4,
cgarger2 - to pin 4, charger2 + to pin 3, charger 3 - to pin 3, charger3 +
to pin 2, charger4 - to pin 2 and charger4 + to pin 1.

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