Vectrix Owners in the UK

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Vectrix Owners in the UK

Hi All,

Im interested in a list of Vectrix owners in the UK and what batteries are getting used etc.

There are many great groups in Spain and Italy etc but doesnt seem to be one in the UK

Maybe if had enough people we could also help each other out via Whatsapp like i have had via the spanish Whatsapp.

Lets see what people have:

Me- Vx1--- 2007--- LEAF CONVERSION--- North East

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Re: Vectrix Owners in the UK

Hi, I’ll add to the list
2013 VX1 Li+ with failing original batteries and looking to do a Leaf conversion
Keen to join a WhatsApp group - even if it’s the Spanish one

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VX1 White 2008 Vectrix with Leaf cells
Beckenham, Kent.
http://tinyurl.com/vectrixfixed

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Thanks Folks
Lets hope many more and think we will do a whatsapp group next week for help and etc

Roger or 'R' on here runs the spanish group pm him and im sure he will add you. There is alot of vectrix running in spain and experience on these bikes.

There a new uk site going live for owners not just in the Uk but worldwide in the hope of helping each other out.

Feel free for anyone to post and say hello.

Link to site is: http://vectrixowners.uk/index.php

Thanks

SJ

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Hi all

I have setup a UK Vectrix Onwers forum. Hopefully I will be able to collect all owners in the UK on there.

I intdend to go through the "handbook" listed as a sticky on this site, and transpose it into a searchable wiki with the correct content.

The site is brand new, so please excuse the lack of any topics.

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Thanks SJ , I am starting to put info up on the forum/Wiki now, so do keep an eye.

Anyone know what software that Mosfetmeltdown above is using in his link, to calibrate batt voltages?

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Hi, any vectrix owner can join the group (only owners!), you can write in english there. However 99,9% of messages will be in spanish, if this is ok write me +34 616359324

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Hi to everyone. I live in Central London.

I bought my first Vectrix (Blue) in June 2008, but by 2015 the battery was too far gone, and I gave the bike to David Gibson at Emissions Free Solutions, who sold me a "new" one. I say "new" because which was essentially patched together from various parts at the old factory in Poland. So in Feb 2016, it arrived and it is a Blue VX-1 Li+. Regrettably, this one has now broken down, and I stumbled across this forum looking for help in trying to resurrect it since it appears that David is no longer providing a Vectrix maintenance service. I love my Vectrix, warts and all, and my wife has had a BMW i3, for 4 years, so we are a fully electric vehicle family. But I am useless at trying to fix this stuff, so I need to find someone to help me? Any suggestions?

Cheers Joe

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What problems are you having with it?

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What's up with your scoot then?

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I'll let you know when I take it apart tomorrow :)

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2008 Li+ in metallic red. I commute most days with it, but the battery is nearing the end of it's useful life so am thinking of a new battery or even a new Vectrix from Vectrixparts.com

Has anyone bought a battery or bike from them since Emissions Free has gone?

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Hi, there is a Vectrix whatsapp group in English languaje, sure we can help you there. If you want to join just write me to this number 0034 616359324 (We cannot post join links HERE due to spam)

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Hi To All,

As you can see from my user name "Vectrix Man" I just might know a thing or too about them, well I do currently
Own 3 of them and have owned 7 previous to these 3. Now there is not a don't know about the Vectrix but I think it is best
that some true facts need to be said about the Vectrix so here goes.

1: if you have the Vectrix VX-1 then these use the 1.25 volt NIMH 30 amp hour battery cell. There are 102 battery cells, so 102 x 1.25 volts = 127.5 volts (in the Vectrix Owners Hand Book it states Battery Rated Voltage: 125 Volts (DC, Direct Current). Now these battery cells you can still get hold of and cost around £30 Each.

2; If you have the Vectrix Li then these use the 3.2 volt cell short lithium 30 amp hour battery cell. There are 40 battery cells, so 40 x 3.2 volts = 128 volts (in the Vectrix Owners Hand Book it states Battery Rated Voltage: 125 Volts (DC, Direct Current). Now these battery cells you can still get hold of but are getting low on stock and cost around £40 Each.

3: if you have the Rarer Li+ then these use the 3.2 volt cell long lithium 42 amp hour battery cell. There are 40 battery cells, so 40 x 3.2 volts = 128 volts (in the Vectrix Owners Hand Book it states Battery Rated Voltage: 125 Volts (DC, Direct Current). Now these battery cells you CANNOT get hold of I have tried everywhere other than China who will make them for you but at a quantity, yes you can get similar BUT they wont fit/will cause a lot of problems as being longer/taller/fatter etc, when you could buy them they where also £40 Each.

So anybody who has the Li+ good luck with replacing the batteries.

Now on to changing the batteries and what goes wrong?

One or more battery cells will die which then breaks up the series of the batteries, thus you now do not have full voltage supply, when I say series for those that do not know, put 10 batteries up against each other then connect the + from battery 1 to the - on battery two then the + on battery 2 to the - on battery 3 and the - to the next battery and so on. You will then end up with a - from battery 1 and a + from battery 10 now put a volt meter across these two and you now have the Voltage combined to all 10 batteries. Hope all that makes sense.

So one or more cells die thus low voltage from a series cell pack which leads to shorter range due to battery voltage dying quicker. Now to then change one or more battery cell, take care as NOT an easy job as these battery cell packs are bound by 3 metal containing strap, when you try to undo these the batteries will/can explode more so the ones that have died as you will find they will go FAT and will put pressure onto the straps as you undo them. You have been warned, now replacing the bad cells is easy BUT good luck trying to put the straps back on to retain all the batteries together as they then need to fit back in to the battery boxes they came out off and there is NOT a lot of tolerance/clearance to play with.

There is more to fitting/changing the batteries but the above info will give people who own one of these superb bikes (with a lot of flaws) or is looking to buy one here in the UK the knowledge of what to look out for, the reason why they have problems (Batteries) and the idea if its worth fixing or can be fixed.

Of course you can go and change over to Nissan Leaf Batteries for around 7000 euros or even Toyota Prius batteries around similar money BUT its not as straight forward as some may say.

There IS another alternative which I have been working/developing for over 7 years now which is nearly there but until I am 100% happy and tried and tested I will not release any details but watch this space, all I can say is I am buying up any Vectrix that comes up for sale (not stupid money please) to change over to my development once sorted.

As for David at Emissions Free, I have seen his work, he tried with good intentions, I have meet him and all I can say is carry on selling Fire Equipment as the bikes that have come my way that your guys have worked on is crap/shocking, even replacing a dead battery cell and putting in the battery cell the wrong way round (have photo and video evidence).

My passion IS Vectrix and one day Tesla will use what I have developed just ask Adrian and Arsalan from Tesla, until then keep hold of your Vectrix,
How Many Left State Only 48 left in the UK, and I have owned 10 of them before (3 now left in my ownership). 1 a daily rider, 1 my collectors piece, 1 R&D.

Regards Vectrix Man

"Vectrix Development To Blow Your Mind & The Future With Tesla"

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Re: Vectrix Owners in the UK

Hi
I have had my blue Vectrix VX1 since 2007. The last few years have been frustrating. I spent a lot of money with two so called 'experts' from UK Vectrix importers who tried to fix a problem with the motor jerking almost like a petrol engine that had gone on to two cylinders from four.
It's had a replacement motor and temperature sensors. Nothing has fixed it. I'm going to give it another go and would welcome any suggestions.
Many thanks
Hubcap

Keep it shiny side up!

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Re: Vectrix Owners in the UK

I was going to suggest that you check the wires going to the the encoder as there have been several cases of the wires chafing against the outer end of the encoder retaining bolt and causing problems with the running of the motor.
Check out this thread for more details.

But if the motor has already been replaced, that wiring harness would probably have been replaced at the same time.

Either way, it might be worth having a quick look inside the motor cover to check everything is still OK and make sure that there is no sign of dust or other debris on the encoder ring:
//i.imgur.com/AXDbSoO.png)

If the encoder ring had been removed and refitted without using the correct tools to align it correctly, it is possible that this could also cause problems with the running of the motor.

You should be able to check it is reasonably concentric with the shaft by holding a piece of paper close to the outer edge while you rotate the rear wheel with a jack under the rear swinging arm to keep the tyre off the ground.
If it only just touches evenly all the way around it is probably OK, but if it is noticeably out of true, it might need to be readjusted (ideally with the correct setting tools).

More information regarding the encoder can be found here.

Encoder Replacement

Encoder Calibration & Motor Phase Check

Another possible cause could be a poor connection under one of the phase wire connectors where it tightens through the controller's PCB and into the IGBT:
//i.imgur.com/QM76S98.png)
But I presume this particular fault would be accompanied by a burning smell coming from the controller area.

I don't know what else to suggest that could be causing the jerking.

Whereabouts in the UK are you located?

Alan

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