Details for the XB-700Li

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Well said regarding the wiring, Dickey_b.

I noted that my bike's speedometer shows the top speed to be 42 kph. I will have to do a time trial to verify the accuracy of that measurement. (That means I'll have to blow through two stop signs on the one-mile loop in my neighborhood -- wish me luck.)

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Well said regarding the wiring, Dickey_b.

I noted that my bike's speedometer shows the top speed to be 42 kph. I will have to do a time trial to verify the accuracy of that measurement. (That means I'll have to blow through two stop signs on the one-mile loop in my neighborhood -- wish me luck.)

I used a 1/4 mile (440 yard) high school running track to make my measurements. You really only have to make one loop around the track with a stopwatch, then multiply your time by 4 and do the calculation as though you went a mile. There's more information on this on my website at:
http://www.bergerweb.net/xb500

Also, I just recently had my voltmeter give up the ghost, so I had to replace my instrument panel, including the speedometer. I noticed that there is a potentiometer on the back of the speedometer, which I bet can be used to calibrate it. (this is on the xb500). I'm willing to bet there is one on the back of your bike too. Open up the clamshell that holds the instruments and take a look.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Hi all, I just received my XB 700 Today and got everything up and running, or so I thought. I have power, battery is fully charged and it is now sitting in my garage because the throttle doesn't work. Oddly enough, it wasn't working then did for maybe 3 seconds, just to see what it could push and then it stopped again. I have not been able to get it working since. What could this be due to? I read somewhere else that the bolt they put in to attach the handlebars was pinching a wire but that is not the case here, I've looked. I'm looking for anything really. I just can't wait for Tech Support to call me back.

Also, you know how everything "snaps together" underneath the seat? all the wires come to these white plastic connectors? (please excuse my complete and utter lack of technical experience)Well one isn't connected to anything which I thought was odd. However, there isn't another connector available to connect it to. Does everyone have that?

I would appreciate anyone's input Thanks again.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Hey Bigboom.

I had the exact same issue this morning and it turned out to be my screw up. When putting the bolt thru from the front side of the handlebars you also have to use the concave alignment washer and I got the littlest wire in the bunch caught in between the two when I tightened the nut on the back side. That wire turned out to be the throttle control wire. Once I released it and made sure it wasn't creating a dead short anymore, my motor hummed right along like it was supposed to. I would suggest taking the black plastic housing off of the handlebars and starting there, if you haven't already. Maybe try the throttle while turning your front end back and forth to see if it works one way and not the other. And last but not least, pull up the battery pack and check your connection there.

As for the lingering extra plugs under the seat, been there done that one too while trying to fix things earlier. White plug doesn't go anywhere that I could find and the little blue wire is for the govaner.

Heres to an easy fix, Scott.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Another thing to check, is that the two brake levers are fully released. Each brake lever has a switch that either disables the motor (left lever), or applies motor brake (right level).

Just my thoughts,

Tom

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Thanks everyone for their help. The problem was in the handlebars, but not where you suggested. However, thanks for making me take a very close look in there... What ended up happening was further down the handlebars (almost near the front tire) there is another set of connectors (black ones) and the three wires that went into it were loose. It was a $*%()# to get at let me tell you, but I ended up getting them where they needed to be and then used some electrical tape to attempt to keep it in place. I just hope it does the job.

I now have a fully functional XB-700 Li! WOOOOOO thanks everyone you have made my day. :D

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Yea!!

Excellent work there Bigboom. Keep us all posted on how things are going. I will be doing the same. Later today I will be killing that obnoxious blinker noise and also will be adding a bicycle computer for keeping track of mileage, etc.

Have fun! Scott.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

If there's a calibration pot on the speedometer, would it be possible to recalibrate it to read in miles per hour instead of kilometers per hour?

Is there a similar pot for the governor? I'd like to reset that to 30 mph so I don't get run over by traffic.

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I don't know about re-calibrating the speedometer, but the governor as you say is the current limit built into the controller. No doubt you have read about that already. Unfortunately that doesn't make the scooter go any faster, it just get up to its speed limit quicker. To go faster, you have to boost the voltage. Doing that with the XB-700Li might be an expensive proposition. You pretty much would have to add a separate charger for the additional battery or batteries you add. I haven't heard of anyone doing that on a 700Li yet.

More random thoughts,

Tom

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If there's a calibration pot on the speedometer, would it be possible to recalibrate it to read in miles per hour instead of kilometers per hour?

I haven't tried yet to calibrate my speedometer, but the next time I have my instrument panel open, I'm going to try, and I'll see just how much control the potentiometer has. Also, I'm considering just making a new template to paste over the old one on my speedometer dial, that would show Miles/Hour. It would be easy to do, since it's simple to remove the plastic lens from the instrument panel.

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The XB-700Li seems to be the perfect solution to my commuting needs. I have my car up for sale and once that money is in hand, I intend to place my order. I appreciate all of the information everyone has provided, as it has made selecting this electric vehicle much easier. Can't wait to kiss the gas pump goodbye!!!

I do have a couple of questions for the group; has anyone removed their controller and identified the source of the speed limiter on this bike. I would guess, based on what the XB-600 owners have accomplished (30 mph?) at 48volts with a 600 watt motor, that the XB-700Li at 56 volts with a 700 watt motor should be capable of similar speed in stock trim. I'm very curious what could be gained from modify the stock controller. Can the stock controller benefit from the "Coat Hanger" mod or is it unnecessary?

I haven't seen any 56 volt controller offered by ecrazyman yet. The 72 volt, 1000 watt controller looks like it would be perfect if someone wanted to add an extra battery and change their lighting to 12 volts with a DC to DC converter. Does the wiring on the 72 volt controller match the stock wiring on the XB-700Li. If this is a straight plug-in installation, I'm sure I could handle it myself.

All advice and comments are appreciated.e_crazyman_contoller.jpginfineon7230.jpg

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

This is exactly what I am doing with my XB-500. I ordered one today from ecrazyman, and he is also adding a pot so I can adjust the LVC until I jump up to 72v. So far from the limited info I have gathered about the xb-600, it's controller is likely the same. Can't say though for the 700, although I would bet it is also similar.

Still trying to nail down the last few wires on the xb-500 stock controller. I can tell you so far though that the ecrazyman controller above does not have the ignition switch connector, but that should be simple to manually wire.

See my post for more info:

http://visforvoltage.org/forum/4952-xb500-controller-wiring

Whome

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

So today I had someplace to be at 11. I left in ample time and then before I knew it, when I was one intersection away from my destination my battery died on me. I left the house with the meter between 3/4 and 1/2 full and it lost the last 1/4 in a matter of minutes, anyone else had this problem?

Either way, the solution is charge the battery every night, which I should have done in the first place anyway.

I removed my battery after pushing my bike to a safe place, removed my battery, bussed it home, am charging the battery and am now in the process of heading back (hours later obviously now that the battery is charged).

Either way, just wanted to know if anyone elses battery meter was acting oddly like that.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

You one brave guy mauser, pulling more amps outa your LiMnPo!
Does anyone know what sort of circuitry is inside these packs?
Thermal protections? Thermal Fuse? other?
I keep thinking they should put a vent to exit out the bottom of the pack, just in case, rather than venting topside.

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

Has anyone done a shunt mod on their XB-700 yet? I've got a lond hill I climb on the way home from work and am thinking about it for the increased acceleration and hill climbing ability.
Bickyd

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Re: Details for the XB-700Li

in the user manual the is a caution about high speeds and the small tires. The caution
makes sence to me. I add that although I have years experience as a bicycle rider I
only have a few months use of the xb 700 li to my credit. Nice ride.
marcharm

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